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    I've always thought that having a .com address was better than anything else. Actually I still think so, if you are planning on branding at all, but what if you're not interested in branding? What if you only care about search engine traffic?

    For example, let's say that I am choosing between:

    1) reallycoolstuff.us
    2) reallycoolstuffyouwant.com

    1) is shorter, more to the point and has exactly the words in it that I want, but it is a .US
    2) is a .com, but has two superfluous words in it that searchers are unlikely to include in their search

    so which is better?

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    .com all the way to the bank.

    Its a matter of trust. If I am using a search engine I will be looking for .com sites always. .com says corporate .com says commercial.

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    What he said... I don't even go to sites without the big 3 .com .net or .org and if I get to one through a link, I leave.
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    Please don't link to competing forums. Believe me they won't allow you to return the favor.

    Oh and buy whatever you would have an easier time marketing. YOu can't get a great dot com so you either have to settle for crappy names or go with an info or dot us etc.

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    >>What he said... I don't even go to sites without the big 3 .com .net or .org and if I get to one through a link, I leave.

    race discrimination vs. domain discrimination ??

    as long as the content is good and target,
    no alloying pop up,
    i do not care the url address

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> race discrimination vs. domain discrimination <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>From your sig URL address I can see why you are upset by this thread Vrindavan but to put a racial disharmony spin on it is really pushing it.

    The fact is that .com is the accepted format for commercial sites and is seen in such a way by potential customers. This has nothing to do with race.

    .com was designed and is still classified as the extension for commercial sites in the USA but due to the fact that the US was not given a country specific classification (.us.com for example) but uses what has come to be considered as the generic extension for commercial sites, commercial sites all over the world have adopted this extension in its generic form (i.e. GLOBAL commercial site.)

    My opinion on which is better is based entirely on the commercial aspect of choosing a domain name and pound for pound the .com site will outsell the variable extension site as it gets the benifit of global marketing for the internet. When people think of the internet they think .com

    It is well and good to use region specific urls if in fact that is your market place but if you are to be seen globally .com is your best bet.

    There are many alternatives out there and many differntt spins placed upon them in order to sell them. It is also necesary to note that URL name is (although very important) just one factor of hundreds that will lead to the success or failure of a site.

    The fact is that here in affiliate marketing you will be selling more than 70% of your product to the US market (region specific programs excluded) so yet agin .com shine through.

    As to availability of domain names, .com will never be full. Availability is as vast as the English language. Maybe it takes a few more minutes to come up with one but with experience you should be researching, testing keyword performance and saturation as well as registering a domain in under 15 minutes.


    As to the racial spin you placed on your post here is a list of some of the blood lines I have in me:

    Fijian
    Rotuman
    English
    Scottish
    Spanish
    Portuguese
    French
    Indian

    All the best,

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    Joe Q Public *does* have domain discrimination, he trusts what he knows. He knows .com .net and .org. and *maybe* recognizes country extensions. He is skittish enough about going to websites and having viruses and other nasties get downloaded to his machine. A .somethinghehasn'tseenbefore will scare him off.

    The question isn't really whether webmasters care, the question is that Joe Q. Public needs to *trust your site enough to take a look*.

    It's all about trust. People trust .com whether they should or not.
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    discrimination can be in any format.

    When quote "race discrimination",
    look at the word "discrimination",
    not the word "race".

    If you study economic theory in college before,
    you understand what i am saying.

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    hi everyone ... thanks for the input

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    The dot us domains are on sale at godaddy so those are better right now imo. How can you go wrong for $4.95?

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    "Please don't link to competing forums."

    I don't consider http://www.webmasterworld.com a competing forum.

    This one is all about affiliate marketing. They have an affiliate marketing section there that is pretty dead.

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    Take it up with Haiko. I'm not here to determine what is what. All I know is this has been frowned upon in the past. Like I said I don't think they want links comming to here either.

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    People have linked to Webmasterworld plenty of times, no problem. If there was a problem with linking to another site it would show like *******.com Edited out. Webmasterworld is a great resource for affiliates, mod happy sometimes, but nevertheless the best webmaster forum out there.

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    It doesn't matter to me and maybe it doesn't matter to Haiko or anyone else. I'm sure everyone will go there now and post a bunch of links to here, right?

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    Don't know, never tried, they're pretty uptight over there ABW isn't. Look at their affiliate marketing section, 1 post yesterday. You're a mod you should what matters as far as what urls are allowed to be posted. WMW has never been edited out here.

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    Folks, discrimination has nothing to do with it at all. That's just something folks have learned from watching Dan Rather. If someone doesn't like something - it's discrimination - NOT.

    It has to do with buying patterns and consumer trust. Consumer trust is the real key to the domain issue.

    Put yourself in the customer's shoes, then decide whether to use .com or .ws

    Is the customer visiting your site because they remembered your domain name? Unless you have something like "Flamingoworld.c*m, then having a customer remember your domain name is likely to be a pipe dream. So what other things do they look at when they decide to come to your site (having never seen it before)? Think about it.

    If I see "blahblahblah.com," and I see "blahblah.ws" I will choose the dot-com every time.

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    For a US market, I'd rank them in order:

    .com
    .us
    .net
    .org/.info
    .biz

    .biz should be a good idea, but it's used increasingly by spammers. .org and .info are more useful for noncommercial sites.

    *Outside* the US, it's a different matter. Country domains like .co.uk, .com.au, .de etc have been around for ages and have as much "respect" (if not more) than .com addresses, worth bearing in mind if you're targetting non-US audiences.

    Since Google no longer really gives a keyword boost to domain names like buy-cheap-viagra.com, then it's less important to go for keyword.. this is somewhat liberating and it means you can choose a good domain name the old fashioned way of thinking up something cool and seeing if it's available.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Since Google no longer really gives a keyword boost to domain names like buy-cheap-viagra.com, then it's less important to go for keyword.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Really? I was under the impression they still weighed keywords within the domain favorably. If they don't anymore... Yipeeeeeeeeeeee

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    Back to the origin of the topic. I am starting a new affiliate site as well, and I have narrowed it down to 2 available domains (using "red widgets" as example because it's a 2 word product):

    red-widgets.us or buyredwidgets.com

    They are both available, what would you guys register?

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    if you stick with .com, that is the safer bet. like what was already stated in this thread, the .com domains will never run dry because there are an infinate number of words and phrases. most people think of .com when they think of the internet. think about it this way, when someone tells you they have a website called Red-Widgets and ask you to visit their site you type Red-Widgets.com in the browser right?

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    I think the reiterate what I said, keywords in the domain are much less important to than they used to be, so the opportunity exists for you to concentrate more on branding with something memorable that with finding a keyword combination (note, I suspect that Yahoo! is still very domain-keyword based)

    Dr. Fel: I think you got the idea right with "Dinohost" because that's really good branding. You could have dinowidgets.com possible, and keep to the same memorable branding. You're much more likely to get repeat traffic with strong branding, and dinowidgets.com is surely more memorable than buy-red-widgets-real-cheap.com or whatever
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    Dinowidgets....hmmm..that has a nice ring to it

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