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    Hi guys,

    I just read this:

    "ICANN's Policy allows for the deletion of domains that don't have acurate whois information."
    -snipped-
    "However don't list false information or your domain may be deleted."


    How serious is this?
    Has it actually happen to someone or heard stories about it?
    I have some old domains with some funky names and info in it, I never felt comfortable putting my address and phonenumber out there in public. But if I'm at risk of losing my domains I will fix it, asap even
    (email address is correct btw, so "they" could contact me)

    Any advice?

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    If they do this, the net will surely improve. Those that hide behind bad addresses, contact information are doing it because they are unscruplious. I believe that postal mail verification of every domain owner should be required and I would pay an additional fee each year to do this. Site won't propigate until the true owner contacts with a code from the mail.

    Poopie Nubert

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    I think there can be valid reasons for not putting in the real info, but there are so many crooks that use fake info that it's always going to be suspicious.

    As for domains being deleted, I have heard stories of registrars threatening to do it if someone makes an issue of it with them.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I believe that postal mail verification of every domain owner should be required <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Sorry but I think that'd be a huge PITA. What if the mail got delayed, or something came up where you weren't home to get it? And what about re-verification? Would you want to have to plan your vacations around when you expected the renewal notice to come?? Not a month goes by when at least one of my domains seems to be renewing, and in the summer--prime travel time--there are renewals coming up all the time.

    Plus, if I decide to register a new domain the day before a 2-week vacation (something I've actually done), I don't want to be coming back to a "denied" notice due to my nonresponse--and I don't want until I return in the *hopes* that the dom'll still be available when I get back.

    Not only that, the LS threads about checks being genuinely lost in the mail, or not being properly sent in the first place, make me averse to relying on anyone's ability to get mail to me in order to do business.

    Some manner of verification may be a good idea, but it would have to be something more reliable than the mail for me to be comfortable with it. And for something like domain names, it'd also have to be FASTER! Each attempt to register a domain could take 10 days (Mail from Cali to Mich--5 days here and 5 days back) with the mail verification. That's too long IMO.
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    You can take this to the bank! There are email skimmers that grab info from the whois databases.

    My first domain registration was completely straight forward and honest. All info requested was included. Name, addy, email, phone #, etc.

    Withing one week the spam started. It continued unabated. I eventually went to the registar and changed my email addy. Again, within the week it began all over again.

    I found that GoDaddy offered an option to cover yourself by registering with DomainsByProxy. An extra 10 bucks or so, but well worth it, if you don't like spam.

    Frank
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    And that's just the problems with the US postal system, international would be impossible.

    Thanks for posting leader, I wanted to but didn't have the patience and figured it was a dead in the water suggestion anyway....

    Although the ailing postal system would love the extra revenue!!!
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    I also get a ton of snail mail junk mail based on my whois info. It has gotten a little less, but a few years back it was really bad. Bad enough that i changed my name info on my whois to say hi to my postal carrier, postmaster general etc.

    The lady who fills my po box was amused, at least i think that was her expression.

    Chet

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    Not to mention the spam snail mail from the companies that are trying to steal your registration from your current registrar, who would know what mail was real and what was fake? People that don't know any better would be registering with someone new every couple of months ...
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    Yes, I know there are valid reasons for that, I do have em

    I have a domain in my own country, they require solid info as well.
    I'm glad I drop my pots line now, I got sick of the total idiots calling me and telling me how I should run certain things on my site. (rather large community site)

    But eh, no real answers to my original question?
    I know about the "go daddy hide" option, but I have more then 1 or 2 websites so thats gonna cost me a little more then I like to spend in one time for a little privacy.

    For my own peace of mind I'm assuming they would contact me first be email before domains get deleted (email address is valid)
    Unless I hear some horror stories ofcourse, but I haven't yet so.....

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    Namecheap and Registerfly offer cheaper privacy options.

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    The WSJ had a front page story on this today.

    An interesting comparison,

    1% of the 42.2 million currently registered (com/biz/net/org/info/us) domains are "identity protected".

    On the other hand, 5% of new registrants are opting for the identity protection.

    Tuan

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    If you are interested in GoDaddy's Domains by Proxy, it is actually cheaper to call them and add it to your account than it is to buy online ($7 vs $9 as of this posting). Odd, but if you have a lot of domains, it may make a difference...

    ScottyB

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    International and USA cybercrime units are demanding all registrars publish accurate verified domain ownership information. Hiding domains involved in spamming -plishing -Identity theft -child porn -warez -cc theft is am add-on revenue stream that is being closed down by new laws.

    Tough crap if you think you can hide behind phoney Whois information to perform criminal activities. The registrars are getting strong armed by those who have to protect the worldwide public from cybercrime and spammers.
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    Godaddy takes ownership and null routes all domains that use their service that can be verified as spammers or phishers. While I am uncomfortable with the idea until i can see a verifiable case where I don't think someone is lying - if there was oversight to this, it would help things a hell of alot.

    I have seen people posting in forums about it. Demanding they were taken incorrectly, but I never trusted their side of it since they would not provide complete info on what happened.

    Chet

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