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    Burst media has an eBay popunder. Does anyone know if eBay is doing this advertising, or if it is a third party doing it to collect commissions?

    Ralph

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    Might be a eBates inhouse campaign since they can't figure how to incent eBay traffic.

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    OK. Someone on the Burst forum has said that these eBay popunders are an affiliate popunder program, and are not sponsored by eBay.

    Someone else there said that CJ told him that it's OK to popunder an eBay affiliate window.

    Todd, can you clarify this? It seems like an awfuly cheap way to get nickels from people, and potentially screw up any registrations that don't take place immediately after clicking. If the entire internet pops up eBay windows, then the eBay cookie is effectively nullified.

    On the other hand, if this is legal, let me know and I'll start popping them up like crazy. I could easily make 5 cents from a lot of my visitors, since they are very tuned into eBay.

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    Maybe I didn't ask this question properly.

    Is it appropriate affiliate behavior to set an affiliate cookie (via a popup or popunder) for every one of your visitors in the hopes that they might eventually randomly purchase from the merchant?

    In the case of eBay, since the site is so popular, is it appropriate to set this cookie looking to get 5 cents the next time someone decides to bid on eBay, even if they don't go to eBay via your site?

    And is it appropriate for someone to run such an ad on an ad network like Burst Media?

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    Damn shame that all the networks reward the tricks for clicks crowd of cookie setters.

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    My wife just got an ebay popunder, by searching for an RV lease program. Do not know the exact term she used, though. The popunder was some generic ebay page, had nothing to do with what she was searching for. Sure seems to me like a shady way to set cookies.

    eBay can't be happy about that, as they surely do not want to tick off a couple million people every day.

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    elbowcreek, so now ebay is being pushed by scumware? If they don't nip this pop thing in the bud, I will drop ebay. This simply makes them not worth the hassle, they seem to have really dropped the ball lately. I wonder who has been whispering in their ear?

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    It's not scumware; it's a popunder campaign being run from Burst Media.

    I can't figure out if it's setting cookies or not. I set Proxomitron to capture all HTTP calls while viewing the creative. This is what I get:

    The popunder seems to be served from www.netmeans.com. The first URL seems to be:

    http://www.netmeans.com/track.php?lo...bfinfo=bsm1005

    That redirects to this URL:

    http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click...bfinfo=bsm1005

    Then it seems to go here:

    http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/71...bfinfo=bsm1005

    Then finally here:


    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...bfinfo=bsm1005

    Maybe someone can spot a SID in there somewhere. I don't see it, maybe the ads are legitimate eBay popunders.

    Ralph

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    The bfast.com is the big clue. That's where the affiliate info is.

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    ebay popunders are very popular with the people paying CPM for popups/unders.

    Worst of all, they're usually used by people who are already braeking the rules of those networks by popping multiple windows from a single ad.

    The thinking presumably is that ebay is a good catchall for untargetted traffic. The examples I've seen typically pop two windows - a small banner (no cookie, guess they hope it gets lost until later) and a larger window (full ebay, cookie set).

    I recently pulled popuptraffic.com ads from a couple of sites specifically because of this abuse - multi windows rather than the ebay angle. I'm willing to offset some single popup CPM income against visitor inconvenience on specific sites with few paying clicks, but not that.


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