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    Carbiz.us

    Any ball park figures are appreciated. I don't want to spend the cash on an appraisal. Thanks.

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    Why not try to sell it on eBay?

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    Do you think anyone would snatch it up? Reserve price? What do you think I could get for it?<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon18.gif>

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    I have no clue, but chances are you'll get more on eBay than anywhere else.

    Just a thought...

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    $9.95 a year.

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    You should get that outfit that said you were violating their TM and couldn't use it to buy it.

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    I'm far from an expert in this area, but, wouldn't that be kind of like admitting to their complaint... unless it was sold to them at the normal price ($10-35 for each year left) which I assume he is looking for more than that...

    Not sure .. just a comment.. ymmv.. etc

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    Not a matter of admission; it's right there on the TESS site in black-and-white. I should have checked yesterday - (or he could have) but their complaint does in fact appear valid. They're holding that TM for internet class (42) as well as 3 others. They've effectively got all their bases covered as far as anyone using that name in any way connected with autos and internet, computers, or advertising. If they were just holding it for software he might have had a way out.

    It's either that or just eat the fee, because anyone buying it will have a legal battle on their hands and it wouldn't be fair (or ethical) to sell it to someone else for more than the reg fee and without full disclosure.

    [ 07-04-2002: Message edited by: eaglefire ]

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    They have a TM on "carbiz.com"

    Not "Car Biz"

    Not "carbiz"

    carbiz.com

    If that excludes someone else from using carbiz.org, carbiz.us or carbiz.(pick any TLD) then we might as well all pack up and go home.

    I'd like the name of the idiot at the USPTO that granted the TM, for starters.

    Get Proctor & Gamble to name a new drug "carbiz", give them carbiz.us, and watch them take carbiz.com off those f**kers.

    Don't hand it to them on a plate. You AREN'T (and judging from what's at carbot.net - WEREN'T) infringing on their TM in any way.

    FIGHT THE MAN.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>They have a TM on "carbiz.com"
    Not "Car Biz"

    Not "carbiz"

    carbiz.com

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Good catch Drewbert. There *is* a Car Biz listed on TESS, but it's Dead.

    AFAIK, if the trademark has .com with it as above - ie "carbiz.com" and not "Car Biz" - You are not in any way violating their TM. They are FOS and you can tell them to @#$#@%.

    This is somewhat similar to Tom THMedia's problems last year with some crazy lady. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    I've sold a few domain names on ebay and never gotten much for them. Just make sure you set the reserve high enough so you don't loose it for less than you wanted for it.

    I've also tried AfterNIC.com because of their escrow system, but I think they have dropped that. I've sold a couple there, but rarely get any interested cusomters.

    There must be a better place to market domains for sale. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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    You should go and see the final bids for domain names on eBay and Afternic. That is a good indicator of the most you can hope to get for a name. Last time I checked the final bids were all pathetic.

    The trademark laws pretty much trump domain names. So if AutoBiz.com has a trade mark on AutoBiz, you pretty much lose.

    If I beat Microsoft to Microsoft.cc, Mr. Gates would sue my pants off when I tried to sell faulty software through the site. Selling the name without informing people of the ghost in the closet would be highly unethical...nondisclosure laws are tricky, the judge and jury would try to find for the plaintiff.

    BTW, i think selling domain names is one of the trickiest markets, the only way it works is if you happen to have a name that TWO OR MORE people really, really, really want and do a bidding battle...highly unlikely.

    So, if you need cash...you dump the name on eBay for a couple of bucks and laughs. If you want to play the lottery you just leave it with a sign saying for sale. Indicate the name is for sale in Afternic, and realize you have as good a chance of a score as you would in a lottery.

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    $10-15 the worth is only as much as you can get for it.

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