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    It looks like our predictions started happening. eToys just started reversing all transactions from as far back as late November!! I can just guess that KBtoys is to follow.

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    This sucks!

    guess it's time to change some links....

    And, that's the bottom line because it's my2cents!

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    Seeing that too. I have to check whether they reversed everything from Nov & Dec.

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    Affiliate/AM Moonlighter dflsports's Avatar
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    10 reversals, all "other" This kind of crap has to stop, we really need to do something about these less than desirable merchants. Some kind of email campaign, emailing CJ and asking for some answers.

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    Not sure if its legal, but what would they say is we created a link called

    Link Title: KbToys & eToys - Refuses to pay their vendors.
    Description: ***Caution if you do purchase from these companies you may end up like a vendor obtaining NOTHING.



    When I heard kbtoys went bankrupt I pulled all their links no matter what there email said!

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    Mine all sales reversed also.

    What an ugly situation.

    Can we do something?

    What about CJ Are they making money out of this?

    Asif
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    Affiliate/AM Moonlighter dflsports's Avatar
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    I think everyone needs to email CJ (support link) and tell them that Etoys is screwing all of us) Maybe an email to Etoys telling them that all Abestwebers are dropping them, you know they will not reply but just fair warning!

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    Is eToys doing the reversals, or did CJ need to automatically reverse them due to merchant's failure to pay?

    Reason on every transaction is "other".

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    Maybe this thread needs to be moved to the "Merchant Fraud" section.

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    Biggest transactions I've seen in a while!

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    Affiliate/AM Moonlighter dflsports's Avatar
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    Well, I just sent my complaint email to CJ, I recommend you do the same.

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    I got screwed on one of these deals before. CJ didn't do a thing. They were very polite when I called them and said they would pay my account if the merchant made good on their obligations. Of course the merchant never did make good on their money.

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    Affiliate/AM Moonlighter dflsports's Avatar
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    That is what pisses me off. I wonder how many reversals they had? CJ has to see that there was a ton of them. I guess as long as they get their monthly fee they must figure some money is better than none?

    I'm not a "union guy" but could you imagine if this crap happened at union operation. It would be time for a strike!

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    DFLsports- Please don't bring up the word "union" They didn't do jack *****! for me, 3 years of hard work at my so called job and they didn't help me! Anyway does anyone know any replacements for gaming accessories, playstation and x box controllers.

    freedom, it's not freedom till you build a business model where you can leave and the commissions will still be there. :0).

    Merchants! As long as you are partnered with parasiteware you will not be listed on my site.

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    Well, it's unacceptable that the money wasn't there to start with to cover this crap. CJ needs to let us know when they are extending credit and we have a chance of not being paid. What exactly are they doing for their percentage anyway?

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    They probably did have money in their account, but CJ wants to make sure they get their cut so they get paid but we get reversals...

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    Doesn't SAS cutting merchants when the account runs dry look good, now?

    This would never happen with an SAS merchant. They have to pay up front. No tickee--no washee. That's the way it should be.

    Mr.Merchant, if you do business in any way what-so-ever with parasites, your products will not be sold on my sites!!
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    Hate to be bitter BUTT

    Where is Irma and her give them a chance attitude. Where’s the I'm getting paid so leave them alone attitude?

    Until we have a zero tolerance, companies such as these will wash out faster so we can get to businesses with REAL merchants.

    Ya I am bitter about the Irma left wing die heart types!

    SandraR

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    I dodged another one. I got burned by etoys last time, not this time.... ugh! sorry everyone who got burned! I also pulled kb awhile back, guess that will be next... watch out!

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    Currently on todays stats these are approximately:

    Reversed Sales: 1244
    Lost Commission: $3435
    Date Range: 21st November to 8th January

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    All of them reversed! Argh!

    I'd remove them, but my visitors want a reputable name like KBtoys or Etoys. They don't want the smaller merchants. So if I don't provide content my visitors want, they go to someone who will... rock, meet hard place.

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    I've had around 1300 sales reversed - seriously unhappy about this. Things haven't been good with CJ for a while but this is out of order.

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    They are reversing legitimate sales! This is outright fraud. Etoys.com is a fraudulant operation.

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    Can we do something?

    I did something about them a couple years ago. Just used the "Delete" button and never looked back.

    Ernie

    It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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    I received an email from KB Toys stating they would continue on paying their affiliates. Has anyone else received the same? Or are they going to do the same at a later date?

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