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    Hi everyone. I am new to this board and a total novice at affiliate marketing. I would just like to get some feedback from those of you who contribute to this board regarding good/bad/ugly experiences with C.J. Even though I have read positive reviews elsewhere on the net, I value the opinions/experiences of those of you who deal with CJ on a daily basis. Thanks in advance for your generosity in sharing

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    Welcome. Rather than everyone re-hashing their grievances (and some praise) here, suggest you skim through the countless threads in the CJ forum. Everything you'll want to hear and more is in there.

    Do you have a specific question?

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    CJ is dependable for near real-time reporting (unless its down!) and payment and their staff is helpful, but as you can plainly see in this forum, some merchants have questionable relationships, as do other networks.

    Advice? Sign up with ABESTWEB Trusted Merchants from CJ. The list is on the home page of abestweb.com . Not only are these merchants free of parasites, but in my experience these recommended merchants really have helpful affiliate managers.
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    Thanks for the responses so far .... specifically, I'd like to know what's working for people now. Companies change, policies change, attitudes change, etc etc. I did look through many posts (over the course of several hours today) but - when reading negative posts - found myself wondering "Have things changed?" So really, I guess what I'd like to know today is: does CJ "work", does the process really generate leads/sales and $$$, and is it all worth the effort? I will be following this board very closely from now on, now that I've found it =)

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    Yes, CJ works, you just have to find the merchants within CJ that work for you.

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    CJ is by far the best opportunity on the web.

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    Yes, I am impressed with CJ's software interface and huge list of advertisers - very exciting. My ONLY beef would be this partnership with scumware WHENU - every webmaster knows that scumware steals more than just traffic. Scumware like WHENU steals our time and money also, and CJ's partnership seems like a real conflict of interest ..... CJ should lose 'em because ultimately the partnership could cause a serious loss of credibility for CJ and a nosedive
    that would be a shame!!

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    Should I let Deja Moo read some of my CJ posts? LOL

    Although I have been critical in the past about CJ's technical issues, they are by far the best in my book and I give them a 9 out of 10 rating (this month ).

    The bottom line is finding the right merchant, regardless of the affiliate company. The advice above about reading posts here is sound. Whenever I consider a particular merchant, I do a search here to read what has been said about them.
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    That's sound advice, and I'm catching up on old threads to glean a bit of "history" here and there. Thanks for taking the time to comment

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    quote:
    Although I have been critical in the past about CJ's technical issues, they are by far the best in my book and I give them a 9 out of 10 rating (this month ).
    I don't think this is in praise of CJ, I think it is further damning evidence that the other major networks are in such a p*ss poor condition that we would even contemplate giving CJ 9 out of 10
    One day parasites and their ilk will be made illegal, I bet a few Lawyers will be pissed off when the day comes.
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Gordon:
    quote:
    Although I have been critical in the past about CJ's technical issues, they are by far the best in my book and I give them a 9 out of 10 rating (this month ).
    I don't think this is in praise of CJ, I think it is further damning evidence that the other major networks are in such a p*ss poor condition that we would even contemplate giving CJ 9 out of 10


    Gordon is 100% right!

    CJ goes down all the time they are unreliable for tracking is what I have found. That probably is because they do associate themselves with parasite scumware and that si the reason why I would recommend going to another network like performics or independent afiliate networks for trusted and true sales from your website traffic.
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    The CJ consolidated payments and direct deposit are probably the best things going for them, since the interface doesn't show reversal rates or conversion rates for merchants it would have to rank a little lower.

    The merchants are many and include a lot of "don't waste my timers" but what network don't?

    Kinda like Gordan said, it's a matter of comparison and out of whats out there to choose from and depending on what type of website setups you have, I can see why CJ is highly regarded.

    I like ShareaSale and ClickBank too, each one is the best at one thing or another. Depends on what your looking for exactly and how you like to operate. Are you a number cruncher, going for the biggest commissions, lover of simplicity, datafeed fanatic, email specialist, interface worshipper, bottom line revenue hound, lots of sites, one site or mini site webmaster? Like all your eggs in one basket or prefer diversity?

    For myself, I like the three networks mentioned above the best and where cj ranks amongst them depends on what your looking at, Average percentage commission (3rd), average cookie days (3rd) average number of occurences (3rd) conversion ratios (3rd) but thats just averages. If you took the cream of the crop from any of the three you can out perform the average of any of the three so the key I guess is being picky about who you promote. If their numbers meet the minimum standards for testing, the next test is can they convert, if not, replace em with a merchant that can. You can waste a lot of valuable time on why but if it's not on your end (quality click thrus) then who cares, the results are the same whether its due to incompetence, theft, ad blockers, tracking code or what ever you still can't control it other than by replacement. In time the dud will evaporate! (Probably with two to take his place! )

    Nothing less than 10% comm, 30 day cookie and unlimited occurences!

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    Thanks everyone for some very thought provoking posts - I can see that there is a lot more to affiliate marketing than I thought and many of you look to be real pros at it. I have my work cut out for me ... .. Out of interest, (a) how many other affiliate networks exist out there apart from those listed in this thread, and (b) how much income in general terms can one expect to earn from affiliate marketing? I really have no idea what to expect income wise - should I expect to live on 10 cent burritos for a while until I get it all figured out?

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    Too many times merchants get labeled as CJ merchants, LS merchants etc. Just look for good merchants wherever they are.

    "how much income in general terms can one expect to earn from affiliate marketing?"

    Unlimited, thats up to you.

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    CJ has problems as well as much when doing business on the net. Until something is actually done about it, it will continue to be that way. No real precedent(s) or legislation to stop companies from getting away with online what they CAN'T get away with offline.

    So pick your poison and be prepared to sense not all makes sense at times if you pick the wrong one(s) at first. You can make a lot of money doing this, but the more you make, the more you might lose. To some, after a certain income, it doesn't matter from the way I read it.

    I was absolutely stunned by the response when someone asked for a list of merchants that associate themselves with parasites. Not only is that (the response) an issue in itself which keeps us from making an informed decision, but an acknowledgement that people are stealing in the network. But who's doing anything about it???

    I am starting to really look the trusted merchants here that have been scrutinized by the best. A mistake I didn't do when I started out. Live and learn though.

    In the meantime, I will go on learning and earning. Yea, Mysql and php. I set up an apache server on my computer and followed the steps adding php etc, and I was in to it...until my computer wouldn't let me in anymore! Not even in safe mode or with a boot up disk. Lost everything and had to reformat.

    Now I will keep learning with a host that supports all that, but not the one that hosts my main domain(s). lol

    My experience is that CJ has a lot of good stuff in the back office, but does it all work properly. I suspect tracking is a problem based on my testing, and suspected that for a bit. Others keep complaining about it and it adds to my suspicion. I'm not going to be the one coming here time and time again and asking for change or I might need to steal Happypoon's signature one day.

    Anyway, like anything on the net, get the numbers and you can do very well. There is a LOT to learn (but you really don’t have to know mysql and php to succeed as some merchants are really helpful from what I saw below).

    The rest will ONE-DAY fall in place and justice for all.

    That's my take on it.

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    There is nothing wrong with any of the affiliate network including cj. The problem is with the affiliate marketing industry which is totally clutered at this moment.Anybody and everybody is into it making this industry very competitve and dificult to survive. I would suugest instead of looking for details about cj or merchant you better concentrate on finding an alternative bussiness, cause this is not a very stable industry and will very soon make you realize what i am mean by "look for an alternative business".

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    Well, I would like to follow your advice BUT I'm getting hooked n pumped up reading about all the success and sales people in this forum are reporting so I'm fraid the affiliate marketing arena is gonna have to make room for one more gladiator!!

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    theoretically there is room for everyone. but be prepared to work your butt off.

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