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    At the following site you will find a list of merchants who participate in parasitic "scumware" advertising:

    http://www.benedelman.org/spyware/whenu-advertisers/

    These are the thieves stealing money from affiliates as well as from other more honest merchants. These are the people who will put an end to affiliate marketing altogether if you allow them to!

    You have worked hard in building and promoting your sites. Don't allow these people to steal your hard earned money, or to eventually put you out of business.

    If you have affiliate relationships with any of the merchants listed, it would be in your best interest to cancel that relationship. You can replace them with an ethical merchant. One who understands the concept of "fair play" and who is willing to operate within the boundaries of common moral decency.

    It's your business . . YOU built it . . YOU own it . . you have a choice whom you choose to do business with!

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    99.99% of those advertisers are a part of ValueClick, which is the NEW owner of CJ.

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    If affiliates refused to promote those merchants, the merchants would not have enough affiliates to continue their affiliate program.

    As fellow affiliate marketers, who earn our living on the Internet we all need to band together on this and boycott these parasites! To NOT do so is completely self destructive! We will all be looking for another way to earn a living!

    I have been working from the comfort of my own home for several years now. I'm really quite happy doing what I'm doing and I'm making a very good living at it.

    I am not willing to allow these people to whittle away at my income until they succeed in forcing me to go out and find a job working for someone else.

    Like MsB says . . "It's Your Money. You earned it. What are you going to do to make sure you get to keep it?"

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    Well those wanks might pop on my site or follow my shoppers, but outside of Buy.com's few links, I sure don't push any of the one's shown. That's the major problem as they trigger on competitors keywords-brands and URLs so advertis any casino orflower merchant and here comes the BHO's.
    Webmaster's... Mike and Charlie

    "What have you done today to put real value into a referral click...from a shoppers viewpoint!"

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    The issues are not that simple.

    Say every single affiliate today bans together and Boycotts "blah Bad Merchant".

    Not to worry the 10K newbie’s who have no idea or clue will promote them for months until they figure it out, and so on and so on...

    This has to be fought trough legislation or litigation!

    Better add... Mike you like the whips and chains don't you. You are always cruising for a bruising! (speaking about previous spankings worth post)

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    quote:
    99.99% of those advertisers are a part of ValueClick, which is the NEW owner of CJ.
    Look for a name change soon. The new name will be Parasite Junction...

    Andy

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    Time for a little house cleaning!
    This World is Not My Home
    We're gonna go inside, we're gonna go outside, inside and outside. . . And then we're gonna go go go and we're not gonna stop til we get across that goalline! Quotes from the movie Rudy, 1993

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    99.99% of those advertisers are a part of ValueClick, which is the NEW owner of CJ.



    Well there shouldn't be any LS ads running through WhenU. If you ever see a LS link come up through WhenU, you need to let LS know ASAP.

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    quote:
    Originally posted by SandraR:
    the 10K newbie’s who have no idea or clue will promote them for months until they figure it out

    This has to be fought trough legislation or litigation!

    Most newbies who have no idea or clue also have no idea or clue as to improving CTR and actually making sales from their sites.

    Merchants may still have affiliates, but very little in the way of traffic and/or sales. 10% of affiliates bring in 90% of the money! Let the unethical merchants wallow in their mire with the 90% of affiliates who bring in only 10% of the money.

    I agree this has to be fought through litigation and legislation, but until we get there, those of us who are the merchant's money makers need to have some ethics of our own and refuse to do business with those who engage in predatory advertising. If we don't, we are pretty much digging our own graves.

    P. S. . . Andy Thanks for giving me a good laugh this morning I almost choked on my Cheerios!

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    quote:
    Originally posted by BLFH (Ms. B):
    Well there shouldn't be any LS ads running through WhenU. If you ever see a LS link come up through WhenU, you need to let LS know ASAP.

    I believe Chase Bank is at LS. I was surprised to see them on the WhenU list of advertisers. I could have believed ShitiBank . . but Chase ? ? they're normally a very reputable Bank.

    Perhaps we need to post some of this stuff in the LS forum as well. Maybe it will inspire them to do some sniffing around, as well as some house cleaning

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    I don't promote any of the advertisers listed.

    The 10% of publishers that are responsible for 90% of the traffic have clout. I am fortunate enough to be in that 10%, and whenever I get a new offer from an advertiser, I will respond to them if they are one of the "parasite advocating advertisers", telling them that I do not do business with an advertiser who condones and employs predatory affiliates or practices. I also emphasize that I am a top publisher in whatever way by quoting my EPC or some other telling network stats.

    I may be totally uninterested in their offer, but I can make them think about the tactics they employ.

    If this group that generates 90% of affiliate revenue did this, we could probably influence advertisers by making them realize that they are missing out on this 'largest segment' of revenue generators.

    Above all, if you feel you are getting cheated by parasites, drop the advertiser and tell them why. Work on promoting an advertiser that is not going to allow you to be cheated.

    I don't decry the movement towards legislation and litigation, but we could be paupers by the time we see results.

    We need to employ tactics that make those advertisers see the light.

    It still baffles me how they do not see that parasites will continue to feed off a dwindling affiliate base until there are no more affiliates publishers for them to feed on, and the advertisers affiliate programs effectively collapse.

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    quote:
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    It still baffles me how they do not see that parasites will continue to feed off a dwindling affiliate base until there are no more affiliates publishers for them to feed on, and the advertisers affiliate programs effectively collapse.

    This one baffles me as well. Greedy people and thieves never seem to consider tomorrow, they are only concerned with how much they can steal today.

    The parasites are obviously not in it for the long haul, they're just in it to get as much money as they can today and who cares if they're out of business tomorrow. Thieves will always find someone else to steal from.

    I dont, however, understand the networks who have spent a lot of time and a lot of money building their businesses. You would think they might care whether or not they are still in business in a year or two, or whether they will still have a reputation of being a network that anyone actually wants to work with.

    There are an awful lot of new networks popping up!

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    Originally posted by IDoEyes:
    I dont, however, understand the networks who have spent a lot of time and a lot of money building their businesses. You would think they might care whether or not they are still in business in a year or two, or whether they will still have a reputation of being a network that anyone actually wants to work with.


    I get the feeling that short-sighted corporations regard quarterly reports as more important than longer term forecasts. They don't see, or care to see what is really happeneing.

    I doubt whether opticians can fill such extreme prescriptions

    Maybe you can help IDoEyes

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