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  1. #1
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    Hi there,
    I am interested in being a publisher in CJ.But I was refused to join when I filled the application form because there is no China in the area select box.Why is China excluded?How can I join?

    Thank you,

    Jiang

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    There are other merchants to sign up with. Or, you can do it yourself.

    What line of business are you in?

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    Its difficult to conduct business through China, I am assuming most companies will shy away as China is a communist country. There are more companies every day doing commerce with china, but it is still a slow process.

    SandraR

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    I mean,despite that I lived in China,I have a strong relationship with US market(for instance,an english webiste focused in US consumers or Pay Per Click advertising in north america),it that qualified for me to participate into the CJ's compaign?

    Jiang

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    Jiang,

    I suggest you look into setting up mail forwarding from another country. You can then give this address when you register, and have your payments mailed there, which will be forwarded to you in China.

    Here are some places that may be of interest:
    http://www.myus.com/
    http://www.nymail.com/
    http://www.usglobalmail.com/
    http://www.irishoffice.com/
    etc.

    You can find more of these companies by doing searches on the terms "mail forwarding", "virtual office", "mail drop", "remailing"

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    never do mail forwarding unless you want to pay US tax.

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    Its difficult to conduct business through China, I am assuming most companies will shy away as China is a communist country. There are more companies every day doing commerce with china, but it is still a slow process.

    This is completely irrelevant to affiliate marketing.



    i suggest you join other networks or independent programs which accept China.

    http://8n.nu

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    There was a lot of fraud from China and some other countries, so Commission Junction decided a few years ago, to stop accepting new publishers from these countries.

    Btw, if you use an american address, you will have to provide your SSN as you will be deemed an american citizen, and will have to pay taxes (or they will withhold 30%).

    The best thing would be to email CJ with your web sites, and ask them if they can accept your web sites.

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    I have tried to email to CJ stuff with my situation for several times with NO responses.
    Very frustrated!
    Now all I can do is just sitting down in this thread waiting some kind guys from CJ to come here.
    Any good choices?

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    quote:
    Originally posted by JoeLloyd:
    Jiang,

    I suggest you look into setting up mail forwarding from another country. You can then give this address when you register, and have your payments mailed there, which will be forwarded to you in China.

    Here are some places that may be of interest:
    http://www.myus.com/
    http://www.nymail.com/
    http://www.usglobalmail.com/
    http://www.irishoffice.com/
    etc.

    You can find more of these companies by doing searches on the terms "mail forwarding", "virtual office", "mail drop", "remailing"

    Hi JoeLloyd,
    Thanks for your advices!It's great.However,they would not provide a FREE service for me,and,I'm a little worried about the security and convenience.Anyway,thank you JoeLloyd!

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Affiliate:
    There was a lot of fraud from China and some other countries, so Commission Junction decided a few years ago, to stop accepting new publishers from these countries.

    Btw, if you use an american address, you will have to provide your SSN as you will be deemed an american citizen, and will have to pay taxes (or they will withhold 30%).

    The best thing would be to email CJ with your web sites, and ask them if they can accept your web sites.

    Hi Affiliate(cool ID),
    I am totally agree with your opinion,however,I am exclusive from the CHEAT mob!
    You mentioned about the CJ email,could you please provide an useful email address?I have tried emailing them but no reply so far...

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    I don't think you should lie about where you are from and use trickery to hide it from CJ. If you are from China, and if CJ does not want people from that particular place as affiliates, then just use a different network.

    Call them and ask them if email does not work.

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    Where can I sign up for a Chinese affiliate program?

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    quote:
    I don't think you should lie about where you are from and use trickery to hide it from CJ.


    This is perfectly OK.
    It is the same as opening a foreign company for doing business overseas.

    Difference is that you become liable to US tax.

    http://8n.nu

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    Jiang ,

    Off topic;

    While hanging pictures and things about the house I found an old beaded purse my mother gave me.

    On the inside tag it states

    Hand made
    In The Crown Colony
    of Hong Kong


    Are these tags still made?

    SandraR

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    Sandra, not these those tags in ages.

    [This message was edited by shri on January 07, 2004 at 04:25 AM.]

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    SandaR, Hong Kong is not the Crown Colony anymore.

    Maybe it's the jewel of China ... but it's no longer a British Colony.

    Go take a peek on Ebay ... maybe you'll find some antique beaded purses from Hong Kong like yours from which you can learn something.

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    There are a lot of fraud in China and India because both of these countries take up nearly half of the population of the world. It is the percentage game, not the quantity game. You might have less fraud in other countries but come on do that country have more poeple than Chine or India? Internet is Global and what CJ done is unacceptable, at least for me. I am against this.

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    quote:
    There is a lot of fraud in China and India because both of these countries take up nearly half of the population of the world.


    To make matters worse, the people inclined to fraud were the first to look at the international internet. That means we didn't get to see much of the hard working, real people in China. It will be a hard legacy to overcome.

    China and Russia have the problem that communism was essentially an institutionalized corruption. The people I know from Russia comment how Russia business try to operate according to the cariacatures of business painted by the state's propagandists. That is they are corrupt as all get out.

    When you teach everyone that the free market is corrupt, people will be corrupt in business dealings.

    The truth is that the free market depends on an underlying level of openness and trust.

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    Where can I sign up for a Chinese affiliate program?


    Would you want to join an affiliate program that held to the slogan "from everyone according to ability to everyone according to their need."

    The general experience with such schemes is that the needs of the people in power exceeds the rest the planet. Come to think of it, this is the operating principle behind most affiliate programs. The merchant keeps the money as they decided they were the most in need.

    CrassCommercial.com

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    I just did a quick search for "Internet fraud" and this is what I came up with, China is not even listed in the top ten.

    The Internet Fraud Complaint Center
    2001 Internet Fraud Report:
    Prepared by the National White Collar Crime Center and the Federal Bureau of Investigation

    http://www.ifccfbi.gov/strategy/IFCC...nualReport.pdf

    Top Ten Countries by Count: Of All Perpetrators

    United States: 87.6%
    Nigeria: 2.7%
    Canada: 2.5%
    Romania: 0.9%
    United Kingdom: 0.9%
    South Africa: 0.5%
    Australia: 0.4%
    Indonesia: 0.3%
    Togo: 0.3%
    Russia: 0.2%

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    >>a lot of fraud in China and India

    i too wonder how can this be.

    Now, thanks glaikit
    clear up this myth

    i believe that if a program is set up such that
    affiliates can fraud on it.

    Most affiliates must be from US too.
    Why?
    Because most of the affiliates are from U.S.

    http://8n.nu

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    Unfortunately with at least 90% of our spam originating from Chinese based url's and hosting this poses a huge problem for relationships.

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    Most people in China cannot speak English. Most merchants on CJ do not have Chinese sites.

    Most Chinese do not have a credit card. Most merchants only accept credit cards.

    Most spam in the world comes from China.

    Most copying of products comes from China.

    A shiiteload of hackers work form China.

    And, whatever your "list might say", there is a lot of fraud out China.

    Since I blocked all of China from my servers at our firewall, I have had a lot less B.S. happen.

    http://www.okean.com/asianspamblocks.html

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    Please do not mixed up
    possible of "affiliate fraud" to "email spams"

    These are two different issues.
    Completely Un-related

    affiliates are doing affiliate marketing

    email spammers are doing email spamming

    http://8n.nu

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    quote:
    spam originating from Chinese based url's and hosting


    example:
    if i get a lot of email spams from UK servers to my mail box,
    then i have to reject all affiliates from UK

    ???

    http://8n.nu

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    Witness:

    Most people in China can now speak good English,
    especially the students and younger generation.

    Chinese-based affiliates know good English,
    their websites are targeted for US traffic.

    Most Chinese do have a credit card now.
    But they may not use their credit card as often as you guys in US.
    Many card holders still pay cash in retail stores.

    Chinese-based affiliate sites are targeted to US market, not Chinese market.
    Merchants, you are pay on performance, please do not assume the affiliates do not know how to promote.

    Most spam in the world comes from China.
    If this true, the following is also true.
    Non-Chinese people are the originators of most of the spams in the entire Internet.

    >>Since I blocked all of China from my servers at our firewall, I have had a lot less B.S. happen.

    China consists of Mainland China,
    Taiwan,
    Hong Kong Special Adminitration Region
    Macau

    Esp for Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan,
    these places are highly developed and advanced.

    i think what you say China is referring to "Mainland China" Only.
    if not, you have little knowledge about China.

    The people from these places are not same, in terms of
    culture, custom, English and education level, general knowledge.

    I guess you mean blocking all the places ??

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