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  1. #1
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    I just chewed out a guy about his SPAM - only to find out that CJ not only charged him for it, but it was from a CJ opt- in list that I agreed to be on. I opted in figuring it would be primarily used for non-soliciting related issues.

    I would never agree to be on a list that is charging people for its use. Obviously, the intent is and always has been- to solicit at any cost.

    Why is CJ encouraging this behavior? It is one thing to send me email within their system, but to hound me external to their system is SPAM.

    All this opt-in bull is just that. The intent from the beginning was to solicit me through the backdoor.

    Unfortunately for CJ's customer- the email was tagged SPAM, along with the other Viagra, enlargement pitches and other suspect email.

    It is a disservice to act in this manner. All advertisers and publishers who are striving to uphold anti- SPAM, ant- spy ware and the general integrity of this form of commerce should be offended by this practice.

    I am a big boy and can decide what programs to join without being bombarded with this SPAM.

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    Do not get me wrong. Opt-in and SPAM does not go together. If you have opted in to receive email from CJ and the advertisers, then you should not be complaining about SPAM. CJ clearly gives options to opt-out from all type of communications including advertiser you did not join. See the "Not Joined Advertiser Opt-In Email Settings" option. Uncheck everything if you do not want any solicitation from advertisers you did not join.

    SPAM and bulk emails are not same. Bulk emails should not be considered SPAM if you specifically opted to receive such messages.

  3. #3
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    Fair enough. However when the wording is vague, or requires a lot of detail, or multiple key strokes to opt-out, or this information not posted clearly or at a separate link, or when opt-in is pre-selected by default- then the bottom line is- it is the same old SPAM.

    Also, contact from prospective merchants versus wholesale selling of your address, which my address was; is entirely different.

    Thanks for the reply.

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    You know, I've never really thought that consumers should have to opt out of anything. If a consumer wants something, let them sign up to get it. If they don't sign up, they don't get it.

    The way things are set up, it's a constant battle to tell others you don't want their cr@p. And you shouldn't have to do that. Those who want it, sign up, those who don't, do nothing.

    Andy

  5. #5
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    You make my point much better than I did.


    Jeff

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