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  1. #1
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    I'm curious...

    I have heard that Commission Junction and Linkshare are erratic with paying. I don't know who the payment comes from- whether the merchant pays CJ and they forward it over to you in the form of a monthly check or whatever. Or if it comes directly from the merchant? It seems the networks all have different policies.

    It's just...everything I have heard about the networks is bad, that you have a hard time getting paid for them, and if you do, the check is like quarterly? I've done some research myself but no concrete answers.

    Can someone help me out with this? What is the advantage of networks, and why do I hear so many bad things about them? Are the bad things related to the networks or their merchants

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    Don't know where you got that info from. CJ pays monthly and in the years Ive been with them, they've never been late.

    When you first join, your initial payment is delayed so they can check everything is above board. But from then on it's no problem.

    Linkshare payments are more merchant-dependent. You get a check from each merchant (sometimes routed via Linkshare), rather than one consolidated check like CJ does.

    I've been fortunate to have merchants at Linkshare that always pay up in a timely monthly manner. Others have different experiences.

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    Thanks very much- might've been confusing with another network program.

    Do I have to worry about shaving with CJ or the other network? For anyone who doesn't know, shaving is when the company you're affiliate with manipulates the stats to give you less $- happens all the time in rx, porn, gambling.

    tower

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Do I have to worry about shaving with CJ or the other network? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I'm sure some will scream "yes" because there are a few people who make slamming CJ their hobby. But personally, I haven't detected any network-wide problems with CJ and am quite happy with the network. However, there are a few merchants that I suspect "massage" the tracking code on the merchant side.

    Crook merchant avoidance tip: In CJ, look for EPCs that are unexplainably jumping around. If they are, and the merchant's not seasonal, suspect sludge.

    This won't catch every crook but you'll spot the not-too-slick ones right off. For nonseasonal, nonbatching merchants: If the 7-day EPC is way bigger than the 3-month, that usually means the merchant's a reversal maniac. But if the 3-month EPC's way bigger than the 7-day, then the merchant has probably messed with the tracking recently.

    Legit merchants usually have fairly minor fluctuations between the 7-day and 3-month EPCs, unless there is some confounding factor like seasonality, or a big news or sports event that draws viewers to their TVs and off their computers. When the EPC makes a MAJOR change seemingly "out of the blue"--something's usually rotten. I *only* say "usually" because sometimes there's a news or sports event that I've been missing. A quick check of Google News is always in order before pouncing on the Drop button...
    There is no knowledge that is not power. ~Hemingway

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    To add to Leader's comments, sudden changes can also occur if the merchant redesigns their website. I've got two merchants whose 7 day EPCs are way up on their 3-month, but both just launched website upgrades that seem to convert much better than the previous versions.

    Since the networks get paid largely on a CPA basis, too, there's no incentive for them to screw affiliates. But like Leader said, there are some rotten merchnats. At the end of the day it's about the numbers. Too many affiliates get poor results with a merchant and scream and scream but don't do anything about it. You're not forced to promote a merchant and in most categories there are alternatives.

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