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    All,

    Quick poll!

    I think we all know my position to upholding ABW rules .. and out of fairness ... to those involved previously and in the future, I would like to post a poll for everyone's stance on the position of site copying since our current and old terms do not address this issue (future rules will).

    1. Should a previous offender be banned?
    2. Should all future (from today forward) offenders be banned?

    The format for your answer should be:
    1. Yea or Nea
    2. Yea or Nea

    Please do not include your views on previous decisions of this board as they will only be deleted (to maintain the integrity of this thread).

    Continued Success,

    Haiko
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    yes yes yes yes yes and yes

    oops
    1 yes
    2 yes

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    1. Yea
    2. Yea

    Do we create a committee for the prosecution?

    [ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: XO ]

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    1. Nea (only because it was not against this board's rules at the time of offence.. like making up a law & convicting someone for previous crimes)
    2. Yea

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    I don't believe that color schemes and table/cell layout should be included.

    But when it comes to plagiarism.
    i.e.: taking entire paragraphs of ad spin then I say:

    1) Yeah & 2) Yeah

    Plagiarism just isn't cool.
    http://dictionary.msn.com/find/entry...rch=Plagiarism

    1. stealing somebody's work or idea: copying what somebody else has written or taking somebody's else's idea and trying to pass it off as original

    2. something plagiarized: something copied from somebody else's work, or somebody else's idea that somebody presents as his or her own

    Send 'em to Leper Island.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1 - Nea (only because it was not against this board's rules at the time of offence.. like making up a law & convicting someone for previous crimes)
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    Ditto. Plus that certain person who will remain nameless COUGH - PRANAV - COUGH won't do it again and already his/her name COUGH - PRANAV - COUGH is pretty much mud around here any way. Plus it's fun to make an example out of that person (just kidding, well kind of).

    1 - nea
    2 - yea

    Hmm, I need a glass of water.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1 - Nea (only because it was not against this board's rules at the time of offence.. like making up a law & convicting someone for previous crimes)
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    I'll have to agree with pete and rik as it wasn't in the rules previously, sorry...

    1 - nea
    2 - yea, for life, if not longer!

    As for plagiarism in general, anyone who does it should be "hung, drawn and quartered" (I'm sure that's how the saying goes).

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    1. Yes
    2. Yes


    I'm for banning all copiers, especially from here on out. Be careful to discern what is copying, though. If I use a table and a similar background, is it still copying. As breeze pointed out, copying ad-copy is a given, but there are many sites that look similar, especially folks who use the free web templates or cheap templates. I've used them on one of my sites, and have come across 2 other sites that use the same template (both in these forums or the old CJ forums combined). That would look like a copy, but it isn't...Perhaps an additional forum would be a 'court' where we could decide on these things [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    [ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: TH Media ]

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    Plagiarism of a site- (especially when against the members of the board you belong to)is something that shouldnt have to be spelled out in Rules and Regulations.

    The people who do it know it's wrong and shouldnt have a "I didnt know" defence because it wasnt in the rules.

    Yea and Yea

    Dave

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    1. Yea
    2. Yea

    Doesn't matter if it was a "rule" on this board or not before, it was still so wrong.

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    Yea Nea
    Nea Yea

    It depends

    Is abestweb a forum or are we a club?

    If it's just a forum we have no concern and shouldn't ban

    If it's a club then we have a right to quality of membership.

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    I agree with the above reasons for Nea.

    The main reason for yea for #2 is you now have over 1000 members. Who wants to try to help out or give advise if their afraid of whats going to happen or if their site is going to be copied. I've been fortunate to gain the trust of some of the members here where they have showed me ideas that they have without worrying that I will steal them and visa versa. I'd like to be able to keep it that way.


    1) Nea
    2)Yea

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    Oh gosh, everyone gave such a good answer and all had valid points.

    I think the court is good idea.

    yea
    yea

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    I'd have to agree with Breeze and TH Media on the templates, color schemes, layouts, etc. There are too many ways to be similar. If someone uses a similar layout, but doesn't copy the content, then they aren't doing much harm IMO.
    Copying content can effect search engine rankings and can also hurt the one being copied if the search engine sees them as basically duplicate pages.

    If you define copying as copying content, then,

    1) No Oppinion (Don't know the specifics to comment)
    2) Yes

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    edited to say

    .....whatever....

    makes you happy
    flips your lid
    rocks your world
    tips your tree

    >>yawning....man this whole mess is wasting more and more time, energy, and increasing amounts of space...I don't know about everyone else but I would like you to do as you will, so we can just move on...
    [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    ((affectionately....))

    [ 01-31-2002: Message edited by: MsMarySunshine ]

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    1. Nea as per Pete
    2. Definite Yea

    What about multiple ID's? That is also deceptive.

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    Yipee, Yipee, My suggestion's taken into consideration...the voting has begun, although for a different subject [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

    Speking on only Ban then

    1. Nea (which is gone is gone, let's move on)
    2 Yea (People would definetely have to learn from the mistakes some have committed in the recent past)

    Thanks Again
    I am not sure if i missed this...Is Chuck Back ?

    Regards
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    1.NEA (don't favor retroactive rule)
    2.Yea
    Ken

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    Haiko,

    please remove the 'moderator'-tag from my profile. Thank you.

    Quiet777

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    Quiet Mate - I guess u please be Quiet...Your too good a moderator and a nice person too....We all are happy with your moderating skills....

    So pls don't think of the same

    Regards
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    moderating,

    It's like being the supervisor!

    A few complain when you try an keep control.
    All complain when you don't.

    Sorry to hear you decision T7. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

    Can't say I would blame you though.

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    TGO:
    If ppl are happy with me, I must have done something wrong. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Heyder:
    I'm not really happy with that decision either. But I will not continue to moderate this board as long as it's based on double- and triple-standards, as well as on polls on decisions.

    Quiet777

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    I hear you loud and clear!

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    Mate You See there are almost around 1000 members and out of which if 1 or 2 arent happy with it...so be it...however, the rest of us are surely happy with your moderating skills and the way u've administered the boards...However, you see it was out of disgust and perhaps anger which led the person to say what he said....However, move on quiet, your too mature for silly things like that to bother you.

    You see you taught me a few things on this boards...now its my turn lol... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    And Hello...I am Speaking to you Quiet...You must stay a mod here

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    BY ORDER LOL

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    1) Water under the bridge, but let it be a warning.
    2) Yes, but define exactly what you mean by copying.

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