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  1. #1
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    January 18th, 2005
    since it's a 180 solutions, everyone should be careful

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    January 18th, 2005
    I got this also, not too long ago. I don't pay to advertise on Overture though my site does come up near the top for the search term they cited. I don't know where these nitwits get their information. To top it off, I got 9 or 10 of the exact same messages. "Nitwits" is being to kind them. Those people are... oh never mind. You had to go and get me started.

    You're right though. MetricDirects=180Solutions=Scum


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    ABW Ambassador flamingoworld's Avatar
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    January 18th, 2005
    The problem is, how many affiliates out there have no idea about what they really do and will think it is a great thing to get involved in...

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    ABW Ambassador Andy's Avatar
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    January 18th, 2005
    The spin sounds good, doesn't it? I can see where some affiliates might not see the harm in advertising with them, it's only later after they wise up that they will see the damage they have done.

    I think I've got most of my mail filters in place to just dump anything coming from them. They don't even bother to see if you're an advertiser or just have a freebie listing.

    It's a bad deal for affiliates, either way.


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    I was just thinking, if I hadn't stumbled on this forum about a year and a half ago, I wouldn't know anything about the crap 180 & other scumware bandits pull. I had Amazon ads & some book site ads from CJ for a couple of years, blissfully ignorant of what really goes on. It wasn't until I started researching other merchants for my content sites that I found ABW & got the excellent education I received about 180, WhenU, and others of their ilk. (I love the phrase "of their ilk."

    CJ never told me ANYTHING about what these people do or about the dangers are that they pose. Without having learned about them here, the words "180 Solutions" in small print on the MetricsDirect email I received would have meant nothing and I might have thought they were someone I might do business with.

    Without stumbling on the information through a forum like this, or actually getting robbed by the parasite, an affiliate is at the mercy of networks that are complicit in the guilt through their silence. I believe it completely when a CJ merchant claims they never received the education CJ claims they provide. Affiliates certainly receive none.

    The "trusted third parties" like CJ and others of their ilk can be trusted to see-no-evil, etc & keep their mouth shut. Only when they get called on it in these forums, do we hear of their "proactive" stand on parasites.

    Unfortunately, ABW doesn't reach all affiliates to provide the education so woefully ignored by certain networks.


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    Outsourced Program Manager Jorge - SHOPiMAR's Avatar
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    January 18th, 2005
    To whom it may concern,

    If you are one of these companies above or affiliated with any of the above mentioned companies please do not email me or call my company at any time to suggest, recommend or even explain your products or services to me or anyone else at any time.

    I just received a spam email from ( not sure when I subscribed ), with a spam offer for ( 180 solutions ) so I dropped everything to make sure I post this.

    Just incase you scammers, spyware and marketing type companies do not know this about me, let me explain;

    1 - I've been working with computers for over 20 years - so I understand a little about technology. I understand also how marketing and advertising works. Heck, I was one of the top Sales Agents for a local "very popular" computer company a few years ago. So please don't explain your theory of How TV ads and radio are similar to marketing and through the use of installing un-wanted software on computers. Can you do that with my TV or radio? What a joke type of spin.

    2 - A friend of mine has been in Affiliate Marketing business for the past 5 years - so I understand how my friend lost money due to scammers, 180, Norton, the list is too long. My friend has been frustrated because of people like you but will not quit.

    3 - I started doing my own Affiliate Marketing 2 years ago on and off - so I understand now even better why I could not retire from my day job sooner, loosing money. Specially these past 2 years, these are the 2 years scammers where up to no good so it took a while for all of us to figure you out.

    4 - I joined ABW october 03' - so thanks to Haiko for ABW and my friend for referring me and from the pro's here, I have learned even more now what's going on behind the scenes. Still learning more every day.

    5 - Now I have been hired as the Affiliate Marketing Director - because I have now learned this business briefly, I can pass my experience so far along to my company and be glad to be here, so that we do not fall pray to spyware and scammers like you.

    Already I declined ( and will continue to do so ) a few affiliates associated with people like you, some had so many pop-ups everywhere and Gator, even my computer went crazy. Not because of affiliates personally but because I want to make sure they stop and understand who they themselves are associated with.

    There has to be a stop somewhere.

    So please again do not call me or email me. It will not work.

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