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    http://www.masspopup.com/
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    When I turn my Zone Alarm firewall off, I usually get a good 4-5 popups within 6-12 hours. Very annoying. However, I have a coupla questions about this new technology:

    1) There are no rules or laws regulating this yet, correct? If not, will affiliate managers allow it to be used by their affiliates?

    2) Does it work? Is it effective? Does anyone have any bulkers in their program that are using this method successfully?

    3) What are your general opinions of this?

    Paul Diemer, Managing Director
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    Paul you have stumbled upon the sleeziest of the Theftwarz group. They do hidden installs using computer viruses to infest Windows based systems with NETBIOS popup messages.

    Basically take the worst of the spammers and mate them with the BHO theftwarz folks and you have these wanks pegged.

    Charlie ...

    If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU..

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    EcomCity, your information is simply incorrect. Yes, these type of messages are NETBIOS Spam. But they use the windows messaging system (not to be confused w\ MSN Messenger) which is enabled by default on all windows machines. No "hidden install" of a virus or BHO is used.

    To disable this spam check out this page.

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    I don't know what your intentions are, whether to promote them or just have it on your site for them to pop up on. You even said how annoying they are. Enough reason not to use them and a very major reason why pop up killers ad blockers etc exist. These same blockers invariably also block ads we may use to generate income. So using pop up spam like this does more harm than good.
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    Blazester I am not off base here. These scumbags advertisers and privacy information peddlers have not only infested windows machines within minutes on them being plugged into ISP connections but they also escape detection by anti-virus and all Adware detect programs. What you see in the way of deceptive spamm advertising is just the tip of the iceburg. Braoadband DSL & Cable modem customers get pinged by these spamming bastards every 5 minutes looking for the hole.

    Use all your computer expertise to try and uninstall one of the NETBIOS spyware/adware programs and then come back and apologise to the group for assuming they are harmless. By the time you even see the the first Messenger Service popup alert Ad you systems security and your privacy information has been completely compromised. Some butthole is selling your real e-mail address to his list brokers..CC info to the 3rd world crooks and the passwords to the hackers. It also is a backdoor gateway to install the normal Adwarez programs like Gator -WhenU and allocate diskspace for future applications.


    " In addition to transmitting net send messages to your computer over the Internet, a malicious user may also be able to use the NetBIOS connection to your computer to perform the following tasks:

    Access your private information.
    Initiate denial of service (DoS) attacks against a high profile Web site.
    Distribute software illegally by appropriating space on your hard disk.
    For this reason, Microsoft recommends that you install a firewall and configure it to block NetBIOS traffic instead of merely just turning off the Messenger service. "

    Once again, we must wonder why these doors are left open by default on consumer systems if they are not needed and are unsafe, rather than having professional administrators open them on professionally maintained networks when they are needed and when they can be properly maintained. These open doors have caused a rash of problems more serious than the Messenger SPAM due to their allowing access to default shares and account information.

    Blocking access to servers or in the network using standalone firewalls is more complicated because the Messaging service can communicate over multiple protocols and shares a port mapper with other applications. Blocking all the ports recommended for desktops will certainly disable the message service but will also disable other services. All the messages observed here been sent using UDP-135. Blocking this port at our Internet border has not affected any other applications. However, it is possible messages can also be sent using TCP-139. Blocking this port will disable many applications including Windows File sharing. You certainly wouldn't want to firewall this port on a server but may want to at the Internet border.

    Charlie ...

    If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU..

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