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    I am wondering what is right and what is not when it comes to leaving messages or signing guestbooks. If you signbook saying check my site out here is that spamming? And is there anyway to sign a guestbook showing your site without it spamming?

    Also, are message boards far play? Can I leave my site there any time and how....without it being spam?

    I just had these questions and I want to do the right thing, and this is why I am asking.

    I hope I can get good help, though everyone I talk to says this place is the best help around!

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    If you site looks and sells like Overstock then you can be assured your guestbook sign-in won't be considered as spam. If your site is like 100,000 others not work a bookmark then this is considered spamming by dropping links where they're not appreciated.

    Mike & Charlie ...

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    This has been discussed in several threads here lately.

    I believe it is spam pure and simple, especially when a site specifically states the forum is for discussion of the subject of widgits.

    Some believe anything posted in any message board is fair game because a site provides a public forum. (Except here, for some strange reason.)

    A search on this site should turn up a couple of threads. There is also a satellite tv forum here with a thread.

    Wayne

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    I have signed guestbooks and left my website on them. To be more specific, I have signed about 4 guestbooks in the last year and entered my site where it asks for my website. I don't consider that spamming. I believe that if you sign more than one or two guestbooks a month and leave a link to your site then that might be on the edge of spamming. Oh, and the books that I signed were on sites that I frequent quite a bit.

    BTW, haiko, where is your guestbook?

    "Bueller...? Bueller...?"

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    LOL...Haiko does have a Lurkers-book. Link and all postings are done in invisible web ink due to the colorful language and drive-by BHO install links.

    Mike & Charlie ...

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    I sure get pissed when other coupon site owners register at my forums for the purpose of posting their coupon site to check out.

    We have some that keep doing it over and over.
    I can't block the site in my filters because they have hundreds of domains pointing to the same site.

    Weekly DotDeals.com comes and posts in my forums with a different username and domain despite repeated warnings. Get your own forums you jerks, don't come trying to take my business away using my forums!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Connie Berg:
    Weekly DotDeals.com comes and posts in my forums with a different username and domain despite repeated warnings. Get your own forums you jerks, don't come trying to take my business away using my forums!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    These people must make the rounds of all the forums. They keep signing up on our forum under different IDs and sites, too. They received one warning and now they get banned every time they sign up. We do have in our rules that posts and/or sigs going to competitive sites are not allowed and are subject to being banned.

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    Linda, I think it is time to start sending them a bill. I do have it in my terms of use that they can be subject to advertising fees if they post their advertising without prior permission.
    I will have to send them an invoice.

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    i get the same person go round signing all my guestbooks with casino posts, 2 at a time, every few days!
    i always delete them, but they still come back! very annoying!

    they do not seem to give up!

    *** And people say I'm just a housewife!!! ha ha ***

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    By Prof. A. Lolis
    April 1, 2004


    Hormel Food Corporation announced yesterday that it intends to file a lawsuit against the federal government over the recent signing of the CAN-SPAM law.

    CAN-SPAM (Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing) was created to help America's consumers and businesses combat unsolicited direct email marketing. "We hate junk mail just as much as anyone," said Lou Loomis, spokesman for Hormel. "But this law prevents us from sending out legitimate and solicited information about many of our products, specifically SPAM luncheon meat."

    Hormel's complaints stem from the fact that any email sent out containing the word "SPAM" is immediately filtered by mail services such as America Online and MSN. The company is arguing that the new legislation will turn its legitimate marketing efforts from difficult to nearly impossible. "We sent out over 100,000 emails to our customers and only 15 were received," said Loomis.

    Hormel's biggest grievances are primarily related to the SPAM product line, but the company has also found it difficult to inform customers about new products and offerings, according to Loomis. "It doesn't end with SPAM," said Loomis. "We've had tremendous difficulty in getting the word out about our newest product, Giant Hunk of Beef."

    In an official grievance filed yesterday, Hormel listed several other products whose sales have been affected by recent anti-spam legislation. The products include:

    HOT, HOT, HOT! Chili
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    Via Grassi Olive Oil
    Mail Order Bride Pepperoni
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>To be more specific, I have signed about 4 guestbooks in the last year and entered my site where it asks for my website. I don't consider that spamming. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If it violates the stated purpose of the guestbook, it is spam.

    We had free areas for related commercial sites to be listed. On my guestbook page, I asked that only URLs for non-commercial sites relevant to the topic be posted. That was quite a joke. Bali Hotels, casinos and lots of satellite dish affiliates left their SPAM.

    I had to write code to reject posts containing any URLs. There is now a note on the upload function to email me if the poster has an appropriate site to include and I will happily insert the URL manually. This has proved a lot more convienient and pleasant for me than cleaning up the droppings of the spammers.

    Wayne

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    DAMN MIKE!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NorthernStudio:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>To be more specific, I have signed about 4 guestbooks in the last year and entered my site where it asks for my website. I don't consider that spamming. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If it violates the stated purpose of the guestbook, it is spam.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I agree wholly. Back in the days where I had guestbooks if you were leaving a valid comment and left a link that was fine. If you only posted "visit my site" I deleted you.

    My message board clearly states in the TOS that links are not allowed.

    Part of the TOS states "DO NOT come here and use our traffic to create traffic to your site. If you post your URL, it will be deleted. This might be a non-commercial site, but I've worked long and hard to get the amount of traffic that I now do. You can work just as long and hard to get your traffic, don't expect to use mine as a freebie.

    HONOURABLE PEOPLE PAY FOR ADVERTISING LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. Do NOT come here to post your home business, money making or get rich quick scheme. Do not sign up here just to IM or email members your money making scheme or similar either. THIS INCLUDES LINKS TO YOUR HOME BUSINESS IN YOUR SIGNATURE LINES."

    If someone then choses to break the rules then yeah, it's spam.

    I've had a few people email me and state that they have a site (usually non commercial but not always) that they would like in their profile as it might help others. I'll look at it and make a choice. Usually those wise enough to ask have sites that I'll allow in profiles.

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    thats a good one Mike
    One day parasites and their ilk will be made illegal, I bet a few Lawyers will be pissed off when the day comes.
    Mr. Spitzer is fetching it nearer

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    What's the point? I don't think the search engines count guest book links and the readers won't be interested enough to click on the links. They are too busy going around to guestbooks posting their own links to click on yours.
    Comments are opinion unless otherwise noted. Remember, pillage first. Then burn. Half of all people in the world have IQs under 100. You best learn to trust ol' SSanf!

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