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January 1st, 2002, 05:33 PM #1
I'm so tired of people assuming I'm just "playing" on the computer, yes I know we all go through the same thing but it really got to me today when someone said "How is it going - are you winning"
They "ASSumed" I was playing at the web casino's and that's how I was making money!
I'd love to say" I made 6K last month from my job - how much did you make smuckoo, but that would open another can of worms!
Because I work from home, they ASSume so much, is it because I'm a female or do you guys have the same problem.
Really got to me, I've completed a new 50 page web site since Christmas Day, so I've been working my butt off in between the celebrations and there is no-one who understands ('cept you guys) the pressures, the frustrations, and just what you go through from concept to completion of a new site.
Guess I'm just fatigued to let this little thing get to me.
And then, a friend was talking to another guy and asked how I was, he said, "Great, she's doing really well on the web" and the other guy said, "Yeah, well *"Fred" is too he's really into it" and continued to extoll how great *Fred was at webdesign!
Little did he know I've been teaching *Fred how to set up a website, *Fred didn't know how to copy and paste 3 weeks ago!
I mean what is it, because he's a guy is his imput of more value.
If I was a webdesigner, they would understand and all want websites, been down that road before, but because I'm in marketing, which they don't understand, they ASSume I'm just playing around!
Earlier, I was really angry now I'm just down about it...silly isn't it?
January 1st, 2002, 06:12 PM #2
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Mj, I know exactly how you feel. It is not a gender thing as far as I can see. It's really quite crazy! I have been full time at this for very near 3 years.
When my friend Mike calls and says 'What cha doin' I say 'workin' he then says 'what, playin on the computer?'
The really annoying part is he and others have been talking this way since the start. I have now come to the point of apathy. I am so done trying to explain what I do! I'll be d@mned if I ever try to explain it again.
Now when someone asks what I do for a living I simply say, "I am a pro Monopoly Player!"
If they question any further I say, "If I tell ya I'll have to well, ya know."
I just can't wait to see all their Jaws hit the ground when I pull into the Club on my New Harley. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
He who laughs... lasts!
January 1st, 2002, 06:20 PM #3
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- January 17th, 2005
What keeps me on top of it all is the whole K's a month bit (not as many as yours yet though).
Sure.. now I go through the normal crap:
"what do you do"
"I make web sites... "
"make me one"
"I only make them for myself"
"what are they for"
"I sell stuff.."
"like what... porn haha"
"no, not porn... all sorts of crap.. credit cards.. casino programs.. insurance.. long distance.. subscriptions.. calculators.. computer memory.. i'll promote anything that sells & earns me money"
"oh... ok.. can you just do that?" (with puzzled look on face
it's at that point I walk away..
They still think it's playing.
But I'm sure you mouse, have a registered business, have an ABN, fill out your own BAS's & pay your taxes like everyone else who is self employed.
I love being self-employed.. best lifestyle ever, especially in this business. No hours to wait serving customers.. & many other bonuses.
I know that the amount of money I make is usually relative to the hours & effort I put in.. I love that... can't get that in a real job (without working 80 hrs per week, and being burned out in a month).
The best fun I had was telling the owner of the three companies I used to manage (at once) that I was leaving.
The stunned look on his face when I told him that I earned more "playing on the internet" than I did managing his three companies was absolutely the best!!!
So, us guys get it also.. you just have to rise above it & think about the the 6K per month as you drift off to sleep at night (even if it is 3.30 am) [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
January 1st, 2002, 07:12 PM #4
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- January 17th, 2005
I think it *is* a gender thing. I think thats exactly what it is. I taught my flatmate photography a long long time ago. Someone asks him a question and he doesn't know - I'll answer it. Everyone looks well surprised.
Then the follow-up questions also get addressed to the flatmate! When he's feeling especially self aware he'll say 'ask her she knows more about it' and the enquirer gets a brief Does Not Compute Expression across his face then decides he didn't hear that.
'Course neither of them have any problem hearing a Loud Slamming Noise as I exit.
Soon this is going to get really funny as one of his mates who likes to grab bits and pieces of me in a deniable way is wanting to sell something 'on the internet'. Just wait till he finds out how much it costs to constantly address his dumb@ss questions over my head.
January 1st, 2002, 07:41 PM #5
Well, one thing about the internet is that it is such a level playing field. You sink or swim by your own wits. It doesn't make any difference whether you are male or female, black or white, what your religion or social background. You work and either you got it or you don't.
You would be surprised. At least half of the folks who talk to me just presume I am male. Leader can tell you about that. When folks found out she is female, most of them really had to deal with some major surprise. It was quite funny. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
January 1st, 2002, 08:05 PM #6
Thanks guys, but Icicle, you hit the nail on the head, that's exactly what it is, it's so subtle it's hard to pick unless your a woman!
Breeze and Pete, don't you hate the phrase "playing on the 'puter" it really irks me and demeans our work.
And no matter how many times you explain, they still use it...it's like a red rag to a bull for me!
I know there are many men who treat women and their work with respect but, I have to say the majority sadly, still have the opinion women belong in the bimbo class.
Breeze, you said you can't wait for their jaws to drop when they see your Harley.
I've been in that position, their jaws drop then clench, then the hands come out!
I love what I do, I do enjoy the money it makes, but mostly I love the sense of accomplishment,achievement, of setting goals every month and aiming to break them, of creating something from virtually nothing!
And they pay me for that rush!
You know what I'm talking about, that adrenalin rush when you've hit your mark, or the low when you haven't!
Guess I just let these neanderthals get to me, sorry Pete, but it's a well know fact there are lots of them in Oz who are feeling very threatened by women.
January 1st, 2002, 08:11 PM #7
Ssanf, you're right I've had the handle mousejockey for a long time and people assumed (there's that word again) I was a male, you know I quite enjoyed the responses I received as a male, it was only here that I came out of the closet.
Got tired of trying to sound macho [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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