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    Clyde, best buddy of mine for the past 12 years, needs your thoughts. Clyde is what is affectionately known as as a "mutt". [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    And he has had two bouts with mast cell cancer. After the first bout, the prognosis was that he would live less than a year -- that was in early 1996. After the second bout (1999) the prognosis was "we don't have a clue what his prognosis is, we thought he would be dead three years ago". [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Last night, I found what appears to be a flat black mole about 1/2 inch in length -- mast cell presents in many different forms, past presentations were subcutaneous lumps. This is very different... I am very concerned.

    We have an appointment this afternoon with the DoggieDoc, 3:30 ET.

    All thoughts, prayers, and lighting of candles will be most appreciated.

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    Thoughts and prayers with Clyde<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon9.gif>

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    Cedric,

    All the best wishes for you and Clyde. I went through the same with my "heart with fur", daisy ... I know how it is ... strength.

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    Cedric, has the mole changed shape or size that you know of?


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    >>Cedric, has the mole changed shape or size that you know of?<<

    Kind of -- it's completely new, didn't exist in the recent past.

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    Then it has to be removed. Hows the dog otherwise? Does he still eat properly?


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    My thoughts and prayers are with Clyde.

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    thank you all for your kind thoughts and prayers... feel free to keep 'em coming, I hate not getting an appointment until this afternoon... lol... waiting is the worst... and then there'll be the wait for the test results... sigh...

    Oh Icicle, I know it has to come off... but if it weren't for the various lumps, bumps, and now a mole, you'd have never known he was sick... even with the Grade 3 mast cell tumours (less than 10% of dogs with Grade 3 live for more than a year). The good news is I was lucky to catch the first one very very early and because of the aggresive nature of this cancer, he gets regular full-body checks (he considers them extra-special skritches).

    Which meant that the second incident was caught very very early as well... along with a couple of benign lipomas throughout the years. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    So, the good news is, this mole hasn't been there that long. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    Hm, FWIR doggie chemo is quite successful and nothing like as horrible as the human version - has he had that at all?

    Its not so much whether or not its cancerous that matters, as whether or not its metastased.

    When my dog was very ill, I came under enourmous pressure to 'put him out of his misery' even though he wasn't in any! He looked awful, but he was happy enough. The 'misery' was in the eye of the observer - so they all got told to get stuffed, and I wasn't terribly polite about it.

    Another time, a different dog bashed its head so hard it quit breathing. While eveyone was wailing and crying about how dead it was I got hold of his ribs and pumped them up and down. By the time the wailing stopped, he was up and about again.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is - this is a time for logic. If the worst happens, the decision kinda makes itself - its not as hard as you think its going to be.

    As he seems fine otherwise theres a good chance he's gonna be OK though.


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    Icicle, thanks for your kind thoughts.

    No, he hasn't been through any chemo. I thoroughly examined the chemo option last time he had a malignancy (including discussing the matter with other doggie owners who were going through chemo -- we have an excellent vetinary-cancer clinic here) and determined it was not something I wanted to put him through.

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    I don't know if good wishes count when they come from a person who is not particularly fond of dogs, but I'm fond of Cedric as a cyber-friend so that's reason enough to hold him in my thoughts. Let us know how it goes.

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    Well good luck.

    I think its unlikely the vet will be able to tell you anything definite today, unless they recommend removal now and tests later. I'd go for removal regardless.

    Thinking about it, I don't see why this should turn out any worse than the previous problems.


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    Best wishes for Clyde and you, Cedric!

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    (((Cedric and Clyde)))my best wishes to you. I too am waiting for an afternoon appointment for Nacho, a cocker spaniel. He had something going on all night - panting heavy, restless, etc. The emergency vet thought it might be something nuriological.(sp?) They gave him some valium to calm him down. He is resting good now and later today we go to do some blood work and "old dog" check up at the regular vet.

    My thoughts and prayers are with you both!!
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    Aren't our companion animals wonderful? I know how much you all love yours. They are such a blessing and comfort. I do hope all is well, Cedric and Vicki.

    I like my apartment very much but I so wish I could have a cat. It leaves a very empty spot in my life not to have one. Oh, well less responsibility means more freedom.

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    Icicle, you're correct on what the vet can tell (knew this before going in) from a visual exam. But she wasn't happy with the look of this one -- others have gotten a "nah, it's just a wart, don't worry about it," or "nah, it's just fat, don't worry about it".

    So Wednesday is surgery day -- she's going to remove it (and one that had previously tested negative, but she didn't like the texture of it today).

    How it can be worse than before? Before, the tumours were in areas where they could remove lots of tissue around them... these two are right next to bone, may not be able to get it all... the other possibility is that it could be in his bloodstream. It's a very aggressive form of cancer and he's six years older than the first time he fought it. These are the things that go bump in the night.

    @Elisabeth [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] -- don't tell Clyde, but I'm primarily a cat person, too... shhhhh... but I picked Clyde (and his sister, Bonnie, who passed a couple of year ago from a different type of cancer) up on the side of the road when they were flea-bitten, tick-ridden, obviously abused, six month olds. They have many tales to tell of wild adventures and treacherous dangers (people say it is my fault for the names I chose) ... but they never bothered the cats, so they got to stay. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    @Vicki - hugs to you and yours as well.

    Thanks to you all. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] Keep those prayers and good thoughts -- it will probably 10-12 business days before we know the results.

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    A big "woof" of best wishes to Clyde. He sounds like he's a fighter, Cedric...I hope he'll be OK

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    Cedric,

    I am definitly a Dog lover. They are excellent companions with unconditional love.

    Hope all goes well with the surgery and Clyde has a speedy recovery [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    Hey Cedric,
    I love pets,
    I always had the passion to handle pets, was never allowed to do so, finally i somehow managed to slip in a few small chicks...and i took care of the couple until they grew reasonably into adulthood.....lol...but there came a dark day when i left them into the field....A Canine attacked them and till i reached it was too late....
    i was heart broken then, cos it was really passionate love towards them
    I wish you and clyde patience and god's blessings

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    Cedric,

    May God be with you these next few days. Not too long ago I had two cats and a dog die of cancer in a years time. I loved them very much and still do. My prayers are with you.

    Peace and Love,

    John

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    Cedric,

    my thoughts are with you and Clyde. I hope the edges were 'clean'.

    Keep him rested until surgery if hes at home with you, unless that is going to make him miserable. It might be a good idea if there wasn't too much movement around the problem area (I should imagine, but I'm not a vet).


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    Cedric, I hope all goes well today. Let us know the outcome. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif>

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    Packy, thank you for thinking of us. Surgery is done and he gets to come home in a couple of hours... the only real news is that he made it through surgery just fine. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    We'll get test results some time next week (probably... maybe later, depending on the lab) -- until then, just some TLC for the stitched up puppy dog.

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    Lots of cuddles for Clyde, I'm so glad to hear he made it through the surgery okay, now lets hope the results are clear.

    Vickie I hope your little pooch is okay and it proved to be nothing major.

    It just destroys me when my little friends get ill, I've two cockatiels, Oscar, the main man, and Roxie presently sitting on 10 eggs, 3 junkyard dogs (cross blue heeler and bull terrier) that have adopted me and one very sweet cat that wandered in a few months ago and decided to stay too!
    I don't know where I'd be without my furry friends, so my heart goes out to everyone with sick furry friends.

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    Hi Cedric, was just checking in to see how Clyde was doing.

    We got the reports back on Nacho - everything checked out OK. So there is the mystery, we don't know why he got so hyper and panting. But good he is ok!! They said I could give him some Benadryil next time to help calm him down till the Vet opened and save myself a big emergency vet bill. lol, I told him his new name was Amazon.com (check that paid the bills)

    let us know how your guy does!!

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