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    For over ten minutes four Apache helicopters were hovering above my neighboorhood and finally left when three transport chopers passed by. It appeared that they were escorting them towards Manhattan but I'm still trembling ... I could feel the reverberation of the helicopter blades in my chest as I stood outside staring and wondering. Scary times!

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    Sorry you felt afraid

    A long time ago (15 years) we had three fly over our house. It was the coolest thing in the world. They must have been only 50 feet off the ground. Loud as all hell and you could feel it thump in your chest. It was cool. Something about the apache, it's so powerfull.

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    Most of my family come from North Yorkshire where low flying (i.e. less than 100 foot off the ground) Tornados, A-10s and Jaguars are not uncommon.

    You can feel the exhaust heat of those things they're that close. Funnily enough the sheep don't seem to notice.

    C-130s can be pretty frightening at that sort of height too, but they only do that sort of thing on exercise.

    Mind you, when you've been scared to death by a couple of Tornado attack aircraft blasting down the valley, always remember that they're on YOUR side and it's a bloody good thing too.

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    Haiko, I bet it was pretty scary. I think it is a little different to have them fly by or too be use to seing them all the time. But too see them just hovering around a place that they aren't suppose to be would of gotten my heart racing.

    I've seen them fly by here once before and it is a pretty cool site. I think they might of been heading to Watertown or something. Another awesome thing that I look forward to is when the airshow comes here every year. I live close to the airport so the planes are always low. Watching the stealth in the air was awesome. So was the c-5 cargo plane. Talk about a big plane. My brother inlaws son is in charge of the mechanics on one of them so Me and my kids got the grand tour a few years back. The kids got to sit at the controls and of course had to click all the switches while dad was a nervous wreck. I kept telling Tom make sure the pilot knows they changed everything, I dont want this thing crashing around here. He just laughed! The other cool think about that day was we got to hang in the VIP Tent with all the pilots and big shots. That was right before John Kennedy Jr was killed in a plane crash. He was grabbing a soda when I was getting a beer. Gave the old head nod as to "hows it going". My ex happened to come with us and of course had to take some pictures of him. Nothing posed. Just some shots of him that I think he didn't notice. But it was a great time for the kids. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon7.gif>

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    Haiko,
    That is pretty scary, especially since they aren't seen their often, and with the recent threat on NY. Perhaps it is a way of saying 'If your thinking about doing something, we're here'. After 9/11, our traffic planes were grounded...then when we were allowed to fly again, I was one of the first reporters up. I'm not sure why they did it, but that first day, I was able to see what I think was an F-18 or F-16...pulled up along side of us to say Hi. We weren't doing anything, but I think it was their way of saying that they were there (we already knew they were flying around DC).

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    I think Apaches are pretty scary looking and sounding. I think they're made that way on purpose. Nothing like hearing them coming for you in the night and not being able to see them, I bet... wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of the Apache.

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    Haiko, I sympathize with you. These are scary and frustrating times for all of us and even though my home was in Syracuse, New York, I vacationed every summer in NYC.

    I can't even imagine being there now. With Fleet Week going on, threats to landmarks, and just the overall terror of this situation, would be enough to convince me I needed to transfer out. My brothers are still in Central NY and this is affecting them also. Everybody in my small group is wary and the tension so thick you could cut it with a butter knife.

    Take care and keep alert.

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    Elaine, Wow! From Syracuse here also. You mentioned was? Did you move? Anyways, you are the first person from here that I have seen on ABW. Pretty neat!

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    Haiko,

    I agree with you that it is scary, but I hope that you will not get used to seeing these things like I did.

    I have choppers passing over my head DAILY. But this is not that scary. During the Kosovo war, we had F-16s, MIGs, and what not, pass over our heads. The F-16s were making their decent to bomb targets in Kosovo over our heads. I don't have to tell you that those things don't have exhausts that reduce noise, it was scary just listening to that trembling noise day and night. I've even seen a couple of dog fights between the NATO and the Serbian planes on clear skies. And you can only imagine the noise when that huge bomb falls 15 kilometers from where you are. It felt like it falls in my backyard. And then the war here happened last year and all the crap that comes with it. GOD, I am GLAD it is over!

    TERRIBLE! I totally understand you, and I hope things will be better ALL AROUND the world and peace will prevail.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I hope things will be better ALL AROUND the world and peace will prevail.
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    AMEN!

    Haiko

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I agree with you that it is scary, but I hope that you will not get used to seeing these things like I did<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    We have to remember that we are still very fortunate in North America. Others in our group live in countries where overhead helicopters, not to mention attacks are commonplace. Let's pray that our countries will be able to maintain a lifestyle where overhead helicopters still induce concern.

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    workerbee,

    Yeah but funny how most of these experiences of war planes and helicoptors belong to us yet we are fortunate not to have to deal with them most of the time.

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    gameboy, yes when I married I moved and have only settled in VA in the last 20 years.

    Born and raised though in a little area in Syracuse called Fairmount and attended West Genesee Sr High.

    Are you still in the area? I always get homesick State Fair Week but have not returned to there in quite some time now. Brothers live on the outskirts of the city, Weedsport and Bridgeport.

    [ 05-23-2002: Message edited by: ElaineM ]

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    I lived in Syracuse for 25 years. Sanfords.net started there!

    Hello, Syracuse.

    HAIL KENTUCKY!!

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    Elaine and Ssanf, Wow, 2 people from here! <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon7.gif> I live in a town called Fremont about 8 minutes from the city.

    Elaine, I know quite a few people in Fairmount. I have some relatives that live there. Gettino's and Manni's. Do ya know them? I use to spend my summers there when I was younger. Had a blast too. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon38.gif> Of course We always got caught no matter what we tried to get away with. Know any Wilsons or Refco or Hefco's?

    Ssanf, Neat! Jeeez how could you 2 leave this great place? We are about to have the biggest Mall in America. Ssanf, do you have anything to do with the Sanfords that make the Fire Engines here?

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    No none of the names you mentioned are familiar. Shall we try Phillips or Whyland?

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