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    I saw that some people here earn $10K, and others are fighting to get $25/month.
    What makes this big! big! difference between them?

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    The size of their bank account?

    Sorry, could not resist.

    The simple answer is probably "Hard work and dedication."

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    LOL @ 7 days

    But Size of bank account DOES make a BIG difference .. gold is the only magent for more gold.

    If u have the the power to put some in, then you have the power to get some out, or else, it is a rather long struggle.

    [ 08-02-2002: Message edited by: Internet_Guru ]

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    Like anything in life, there are those who do well, and those who do not so well.

    Why is it my best friends mom made a very good living selling Amway but my neighbour crashed and burned after a year? Same thing, I guess.

    When I was with CJ I made enough to get a cheque every two or three months. I make more in private advertising than I ever will with an affiliate program. My site is different from Leaders, and Vicki's, and yours.

    I run a content site and affiliate programs are just there 'cause $25US a month is better than $0 US a month. I don't do the same thing as people who run big shopping sites do.

    Everything in life, be it sales or gardening will always have those who are hugely successful and those who can barely keep it alive.

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    Parentsworld,

    I TOTALLY disagree,

    it is true that there are successful people and there are unsuccessful people in anything ..... BUT ..... if the not so successful people have the the will to become successful .. they can outshine the successful ones ANY DAY.....remember, when you are given a wish/will, you are also given the power to make it come true.

    -Pranav.

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    True enough, if you have the drive to do well than 98% of the time you will. Learn everything, try everything and work...work...work....

    BUT not everyone has that -- some think they do, but they don't.

    Do I personally have what it takes to make $1,000 + in a month? Heck no, but I know it. Could I if I really wanted to and was driven? Heck yeah. I just know I don't have the time/dedication/drive to put into it, and that's ok with me.

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    I would have to say that there are serveral factors that make a difference.

    1. EFFORT - A lot of people in this world would rather have things handed to them rather than work for it. (ex: my brother) [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] Hell, I am still trying to figure out how to get listed high in google. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    2. Natural Talent - Some people just have a natural talent for creating web pages, images, and sales pitches.

    3. Good Merchant Partners - Partnering with good merchants that are honest is one of the most important things that you can do for yourself! Some of the best merchants that you can partner with are ones that communicate with affiliates. (ex: Andy from TigerDirect) He is the perfect example of how an affiliate manager should be. (note: I am not kissing butt for a bonus) There are good ones out there like the ones that visit ABW and participate. Just go find them.

    Being a successful affiliate takes hard work. I still have a ton to learn so all I can say is keep plugging away and you will get there. Do research and learn all you can!

    Core

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    If you only have that WILL, the time, dedication, drive will automatically come with it. the feeling that " YES, I WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL" must the come from within, everything ( with it's ups and downs as side effects) will come with it and eventually lead you to the goal.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>But Size of bank account DOES make a BIG difference .. gold is the only magent for more gold.

    If u have the the power to put some in, then you have the power to get some out, or else, it is a rather long struggle.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    But how long the struggle I think depends on how much the willpower. For example, I started my first affiliate site about 15 months ago. Had a domain name I was hanging onto from my wife's closed business. One day I decided to put it on the web as a rescource for others looking for the products she used to sell. I discovered CJ and put one link on the page to them and 80 links to other companies that had no affiliate program. Many months later when I got my first check I reworked the site and slowly have been adding affiliate merchants. Two months ago I converted the site to only affiliate merchants and wow, what a difference.

    My point here (sorry for the long story) is that when I started I had no money for this site and was even trying to sell it to make money off of it. I was hosting it at a discount registrar for only $15.00 a year until two months ago. As profits came in, I put them back into the website. Bought a fancy web template online and made the site look really professional. Just in the last month the profits have doubled. Want to know where that money is going? To develop three more sites.

    It's been 15 months since I started, but it never seemed like a long struggle.

    Internet Guru: I'm not arguing your point, just trying to say the struggle is all in the eye of the beholder.

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    That's exactly my point 7-days,

    If you have the real wish and will to make it happen, everything will get in place for you and the struggle will be over even before you realize that you are struggling!

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    I thought that was what you were saying. Guess I was just agreeing with you (and rambling a bit).

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    Source - Jim Daniel's article..

    -----------------------------

    PORTRAIT OF AN ACHIEVER

    Failed in Business - Bankruptcy, 1831

    Defeated for Legislature, 1832

    Sweetheart/Fiancee Dies, 1835

    Nervous Breakdown, 1836

    Defeated in Election, 1836

    Defeated for U.S. Congress, 1843

    Defeated again for U.S. Congress, 1846

    Defeated once again for U.S. Congress, 1848

    Defeated for U.S. Senate, 1855

    Defeated for U.S. Vice President, 1856

    Defeated again for U.S. Senate, 1858

    ABRAHAM LINCOLN

    Elected President of the U.S.A., 1860

    You cannot fail... unless you quit!

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    Vasi,

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    I was thinking that, when you start this type of business. Everybody has the same thing: a computer & an internet connection. And you're ready to go for SFI!

    In real life you need a hell lot more than that.

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    >>Everybody has the same thing: a computer & an internet connection.<<

    Ya hand everyone in the room a hammer, that doesn't make them all carpenters. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    >>In real life you need a hell lot more than that.<<

    This is real life and you need a lot more than a computer to make this work. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    While no one shares all their secrets, there is enough information available in ABW to enable anyone to start making money with affiliate marketing if that's what they want to do. We all have to put it together our own way (that part is critical), but the information is there. Some people "get it" and some don't.

    You can often spot the difference in the kinds of questions they ask. Some people's questions say, in effect, "Feed me, feed me." Other people's questions say, "Help me digest this." There's a big difference.

    Above all you have to be teachable, and willing to test new things. I have seen some folks around here who are so stuck on their own opinions that they can't take advice, and won't make changes even on a trial basis. That is not the way to become a winner. The winners will be constantly learning and testing new things, expanding on what works (for them) and letting go of what doesn't. While you need to be able to take advice, you also have to develop your web presence YOUR OWN WAY. If you're just a clone you won't get very far. (That's the biggest problem with the multi-level programs I've seen.)

    Someone said in a recent thread that a lot of people lose interest when they find out this stuff takes WORK. (Fortunately, that's not quite the same as a J*B). You have to be prepared to work at this -- work hard, and work smart. It takes a certain amount of raw intelligence, and some basic technical knowledge (which you can add to as you go). I strongly suspect that people with a good sense of humor will do better at affiliate marketing than the boring, sober-sides crowd. A critical ingredient in humor is the ability to see quirky, unexpected connections, and that's a major factor in developing the kinds of insights it takes to make affiliate marketing work.

    A few thoughts on a rainy Manitoba morning,

    Elisabeth Archambault

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    You have to believe in yourself to succeed at anything, and any business. This is a great business, maybe the perfect business right now, but it takes a ton of work, motivation, a little talent and above all a positive attitude. Just my 2c

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    I was working on something this morning and thought it might be relavent to post here (currently printing a couple hundred business cards on my deskjet). I use business cards as another way to promote my web sites. I put them around town in areas where they are a good match for what I am trying to promote. I have no statistics to show it works, but the cards do slowly dissapear, so I can only hope they are.

    But don't spend a fortune on cards. I was fortunate enough to get 6000 cards that I can print off my deskjet for only $6.00 on clearance at my local Office Depot store. That makes it worthwhile for me to do it. If I had to pay to have cards printed, it would not be practicle. Office supply stores always seem to have these on clearance so I always stop by their clearance table whenever I am in their store.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>In real life you need a hell lot more than that<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    This IS real life, the reason: you make very real money here, read what elisabeth wrote, affiliate marketing is the SAME as regular offline marketing.

    You want to sell, you interact with a potnetial customer, you try to convince him with your words, and if you are good at it, the customer buys! What's the unreal part?

    On the net, you have to promote your site so that people come there , similarly as you promote your shop/store offline.

    Then when someone is actually inside the store, you try to sell to him/her. Much as you do with your offline retail business!

    There is no real difference exept, online business is more fun [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    -Pranav.

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    There are a couple of reasons why some people are earning $25.00 and $10K.

    Not everyone comes from a marketing background.
    Many come into it with the misconception that affiliate marketing is 'whacking up a banner' and cashing a check.
    When the checks don't arrive, the ones using the mantra 'Failure is not an option' start looking at the reasons why, the others give it away.
    As their learning curve grows so does their bank balance.

    The learning curve is steep, full of amazing discoveries, challenges and disappointments but infinitely rewarding if failure is not an option.

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    I believe its all in the learning curve. When just starting, you don't have much to go on, well I didn't.....this was a few years ago, but try try try was the answer.

    Then you try something completely different, experiementation, also its not just about web design, you can have a beautiful site, and no one can see it. You have to spend time driving traffic, know how to work search engines.

    You don't need a marketing degree to make it big on the net, it helps but I don't think its all that its cracked up to be.

    And I think the one's that do get to $25.00 a month are motivated, just in the stage of the learning curve. Because obviously they stuck it out for a few months just to get it there. How many people throw up a banner farm, and walk away expecting it to make a million or two?

    Perhaps a big difference is enjoyment. I enjoy making pages, coming up with new ideas, etc, and buying domain names. If it seems like too much like work, it'll never happen for you. I believe in any personal business, you must love it, wether its a brick n motar store, a restaurant, whatever.

    It's easier to stay in a job you dislike because it pays its bills, there's more instant gratification to stay, but its harder to get your own business off the ground because it takes time and effort.

    You must make goals, and works toward them. This I think is a big difference. If you have no goals, you have no real expectations, so if you're making $200 per month, and are updating once a month, perhaps that person, is laughing all the way to the bank, and is happy for easy money, now if that person had a goal, perhaps by the end of the year it'll be $2000 per month.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There are a couple of reasons why some people are earning $25.00 and $10K.
    Not everyone comes from a marketing background.
    Many come into it with the misconception that affiliate marketing is 'whacking up a banner' and cashing a check.
    When the checks don't arrive, the ones using the mantra 'Failure is not an option' start looking at the reasons why, the others give it away.
    As their learning curve grows so does their bank balance.

    The learning curve is steep, full of amazing discoveries, challenges and disappointments but infinitely rewarding if failure is not an option.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    WOW, That was really inspiring! especially the 'Failure is not an option' part.

    Thanks,
    Pranav.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dapyx:
    I saw that some people here earn $10K, and others are fighting to get $25/month.
    What makes this big! big! difference between them?
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Mob ties.

    (as usual, my initial response was a joke one - but as soon as I typed it I realized it could be taken two ways - the second may be a valid response)

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You don't need a marketing degree to make it big on the net, it helps but I don't think its all that its cracked up to be.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Just my non-scientific thoughts on who makes what (when they've admitted it): a bit more marketing will get you much farther faster than a bit more technical skill.

    But those of us without marketing background can add to it as we go, just as those with little technical skill can add as they go.

    I think I once posted that my general prototype of who succeeds in this are one of two sorts (and since this is a gross generality, please don't take offense if you don't fit into it!).
    1) Previous retail experience and the skills to transfer it to the net
    2) No other options for income besides going back to a j*b that is no longer at all fulfilling.

    Sign me in group #2 [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] .

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    Someone once said, and I can't remember exactly who, but they said:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'm convinced that half of Marketing is a complete waste. I'm just not sure which half...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I'm not an affiliate, so maybe I shouldn't say anything (but that just wouldn't be me)... But, if you ask me, here's what you need to be successful:
    1) Sales Experience
    2) Technical Experience, a technical resource that can do it for you, or the intelligence and drive to learn the technical side (HTML).
    3) Drive
    4) Time

    "Affiliate Marketing" is a legacy term that really should be changed to "Sales Partner". Affiliates are sales people whose primary job is to sell. The challenge is that selling now requires technical ability, where it does not in regular sales channels.

    Drive and Time are required with anything you do. The more drive, and the more time someone has to devote to this, the more successful they will ultimately become.

    Just a few thoughtsÂ…

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