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    Super Sh!t Stirrer SSanf's Avatar
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    Now, I am really freaked out.

    Surgeons are preparing to cross a new medical frontier with the transplant of a whole human face from a dead to a living person.

    Stop the planet. I want to get off!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SSanf:


    Stop the planet. I want to get off!
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    you're just saying that because you have a face.

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    ...That looks normal, hasn't been damaged by an accident (has a nose, etc.).

    If people are willing to be "organ donors" for such things after death, it's their choice.

    If they can choose to donate their heart, kidneys, corneas, etc. to help others, why not this?

    This "organ" is merely more visible than the others.

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    Super Sh!t Stirrer SSanf's Avatar
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    I think that is nice and all but how about people like Bin Laden?

    Elvis' estate should have sold his face. LOL
    I'm sure there would have been buyers!

    How about pretty people being killed by face robbers? Nice thought.

    This is of great concern to me since I would, no doubt, be one of the first to be targeted by the face robbers!

    Will it become legal to swap faces for a price?

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    Same problems apply to other organ donors.

    I've read that in poor countries, donating a kidney is often done for the money to help one (or one's family) survive, have money for food, etc.

    The central question seems to me to be "who owns the property." In this case, can someone make pre-death agreements for donating any/all of his body to help the living?

    If the answer is "yes," then there you go.

    Personally I'm not worried, since I'm one of the *last* people likely to be targeted by a "face robber". [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    All that said, I think the doctors are being overly-optimistic. Connecting up all the nerves, etc. sure seems like an incredible task.

    Not to mention the rejection problems the article touches on.

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    Oh, groose! Imagine your face being rejected.

    Opps! Sorry, you said you already have that problem. LOL

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    Imagine the possibilities!

    Career criminals and ex-presidents can get off to a fresh start!

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    When the stiches heal ..Ken Lay can work his way back up to be CEO of Enron..

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    This is going to really mess with the governments plans for our national security!

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    I'm not sure why people are so squeamish about this. After all, by the time the face has been fitted onto the different bone structure and generally sliced up, pulled around and stitched back, it's not going to look too much like the original donor. You see, nothing to be squeamish about at all.

    Incidentally, scientists in the 1970s or early 80s (I can't remember which) successfully did head transplants on monkeys, but anti-rejection drugs weren't available at the time so eventually the body rejected it's new head (or vice-versa). They then experiment with brain transplants, because the brain is thought to be the only organ that won't be rejected. This was less successful because the nerve connections are more complex and they couldn't manage the eyes and ears. Eventually the program was dropped because of funding difficulties (i.e. the "Ick Factor")

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    I want one, I want one! Anything would be an improvment! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

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