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    Is it really possible to make $10,000 month or even half that, $5000 a month without doing adult, pharmacy or casino sites? Without debt consolidation or related topics either, actually.

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    I can't wait to read this thread as it develops!
    My two cents - anything is possible. The tough part is to figure out how.

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    In the last 7 minutes I was only able to come up with 3,249 other things that you could do it with....as long as you have the traffic.

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    Yes. Think niche and think in terms of being specialized.

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    Yes, you can make that and more than that. I have a couple of main sites i work on, 1 is a niche and the other is a big shopping site. Get Wordtracker and do better than your competition.

    "Nothing focuses the mind better than the constant sight of a competitor who wants to wipe you off the map."
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    Trust, Wayne, Gate ...
    Isn't the key that it is actually a lot of effort (trying to avoid the word "work" here ) to make that happen? My sense from monitoring this and other boards is that a lot of people want to create a Web site in a day, then watch the five-digit checks roll in.
    Affiliate links aren't are bread and butter, so I could be off base here.

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    I've just begun to make money. It took me a year of being a stubborn content-hobbyist, but I broke three digits for the second month by becoming a not-so-stubborn affiliate salesperson. (Content made for a halfway decent christmas, but affiliate sales are making for an awesome year!)

    Considering how few pages on my top-performing site actually sell something, $5000/month should be within reach by this time next year.

    Added: Wayne and Phillyburbs are both right:

    (specialized+niche)*effort=revenue

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    It depends. You can find a niche site that takes no work and make some money. They are harder to find, but they are out there. Luckily i found a great one that is only 1 page that gets about 1300 hits a day, that makes about $1200 a month all off Ebay. My main site takes some effort but it pays off. I first got into this finding out some coupon sites make over 1 million a year and looking at them thinking i could do better. It's a lot harder now making that kind of money because of parasites, lots more competition, spammy affiliates etc. but it can be done. There are lots of different kinds of affiliate sites, content, sales etc. that make money. Most people just give up too soon expecting to make alot right off the bat. But if you stick with it you can make some money. I'm kinda stubborn and put a lot of hours into this, so it's worked for me.

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    It takes time, but it can be done. I have a long way to go. However, I have gone from 33 visitors on November 17th 2002, to over 1,000 per day now. I am making over $1,000 per month, compared to $20 in November. This Christmas should be interesting I told my wife that I would make $10,000 this coming December, we shall see! You just have to work at it. You can't expect an easy ride. If you want to make enough to live on, you really have to do a lot of work, more than you would probably realise. It is worth it though. Those commission checks are nice

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Is it really possible to make $10,000 month or even half that, $5000 a month without doing adult, pharmacy or casino sites? Without debt consolidation or related topics either, actually ~Bubbles<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yes, it's possible, and without any of the categories you find undesireable!

    I will note that my earnings don't come from one site. I have about 20! Trying to make $5k-$10k off of just one site would be a lot harder, IMO.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Isn't the key that it is actually a lot of effort (trying to avoid the word "work" here ) to make that happen? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    While effort is needed, it's NOT "the Key." The KEY is to be *smart* in your efforts--and not do w*rk just for the sake of it. Some people think that "work = money" and end up doing hours and hours more work than is needed. Work in itself doesn't equal squat. The effort must be properly directed in order for it to do any good!

    In other words, instead of just making X amount of pages, or putting in X amount of hours, first make sure someone actually wants the products you're thinking of pushing. Not every merchant has a saleable item! Then, you need to find out how people are searching for the item. Use WordTracker--don't just guess at keywords to target. And if there's a program that'll (legitimately) do some of your w*rk for you--use it! There's nothing noble or profitable about hand-typing what a program can type for you.

    The old cliche is "work smarter, not harder" and it certainly pertains here. One ounce of well-directed effort is more profitable than 10 tons of misdirected work or activity for activity's sake!

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> a lot of people want to create a Web site in a day, then watch the five-digit checks roll in.~PhillyBurbs <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Thinking about this...

    I don't like to say "impossible" to anything, but put it like this, I think the chances would be kind of like the chances of winning the Powerball. One in millions...

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Yes. Think niche and think in terms of being specialized.~Wayne <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I'd never give up my Mall Sites, but--YES, the right niche can sure rake it in!!! Some things are definitely worth a seperate niche site. Problem is, some aren't! Niches could be a bit hit and miss for a while for a new affiliate, while a mall site allows a person to push a lot of things simultaneously and see what works.

    -I've been a king, and I've been a pauper, and everything there is in between ~fairly old country song

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    Thanks for all your replies! I really wasn't sure if it was possible.

    Based on your replies, I may not be thinking niche enough. I'm working on a couple of sites that each focus on a specific category of product, but are somewhat competitive. It's hard to gage these things though.

    I got the trial version of Wordtracker recently, but I'm not too impressed with it yet. And the results are so different from Overture's. Maybe I'm not making the best use of it.

    I don't mind having multiple sites, but I would like to be able to eventually average about $1000 a month from each of them. It seems it could get difficult to manage many more sites than that.

    Thanks again!

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    Bubbles,

    Wordtracker is well worth the price. I don't start a project without hitting wordtracker first. It's more than doubled my income since I started using it. JMO of course!

    As for the 10,000 a month. Yup it sure is posible although I haven't been fortunate to hit it yet . Sooo close last Christmas but just missed. I know it's there waiting for me though and slowly I will close in on it.

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    Wordtracker is definetly the best, Overture can't compare, their numbers are off. The trial version is ok, but the paid version is much better, well worth the price.

    "Nothing focuses the mind better than the constant sight of a competitor who wants to wipe you off the map."
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    Are adult and casino sites really best earners for webmasters ?
    I believe many other good programs can match or better than adult and casino programs.


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    One good thing about WordTracker is that you can pay for one day useage only - about $6-$7 US dollars - and do all the word/phrase prospecting in that time. It also lets you email CSV files with the results to yourself, so you can open them on a spreadsheet like Excel.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Sooo close last Christmas but just missed. I know it's there waiting for me though and slowly I will close in on it.~DaPackster<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Glad to see you're doing well! I *knew* I was seeing less whining from your direction lately...

    -I've been a king, and I've been a pauper, and everything there is in between ~fairly old country song

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    Here is another KEY- automation. (and I promise not to pitch our automation service)

    The more services you automate the more human capital you have available to do more things.

    In a recent consulting gig I worked with a very successful affiliate who did not want to write a newsletter- had zero desire for it, but he needed it. He was losing TONS of visitors.

    Stage 1 we worked up a stratategy where a programer dragged in his Top 10 sellers by store and prepped them for a weekly mailing via HTML or texdt with any new deals if they had that week for the Top 10.

    Stage2 was an e-mail mechanism that let the users group only certain stores and to get instant notifcation when there was a sale available from those stores only- by mail. No sale- no mail.

    He spends, if he wishes, two or three minutes crafting a hello header and that's it. The data and the programmers do the rest of the work. It goes on auto pilot and this person rests instead of works some more. I highly suspect he watches T.V. actually....

    He now sees more sales, has a competitive advantage in that his customers are ASKING him to contact them with EXACTLY what they want. He is building equity into his brand, he can micro-target ad buys and now has technological assets that have value should he wish to exit.

    I have to agree with the "Think Smart" and the best way to think Smart is to find tasks you do and let software/hardware do it better for you- automate.

    Automation means scalability, and scalability means you can compete- any size company!!!

    Automation will be our new mantra at AffTrack this week!

    best,
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    Many people are constantly searching for the secret to online success. Most never find it. Some go broke trying. Yet each year the resources spent in pursuit of the 'holy grail' of Internet marketing continue to grow. This 'secret' is touted in thousands of places, in thousands of guises. The hype surrounding the subject is almost impenetrable. So dense that even the experienced can succumb. If you are just starting out online, chances are that you too will be sucked in. To save you from wasting much time and energy, if not money too, let me share the truth with you.

    The REAL secret to your online success is ...YOU!
    For every false start, there need only be one that is true
    for every idea not pursued, denies the entrepreneur in you.

    The most important criteria as to whether you 'make it' or not, is simply YOUR ATTITUDE and treating it like a real business. All other factors are secondary and really don't mount any henderence to online success! Take time to make, or have made for you, a site that even you would buy from. Have a e-business plan..fund it.. and then work & revise that plan daily based upon customer feedback!

    Charlie ...

    If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU..

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    Certainly $10k is very possible with no porn/ casinos etc, our top guy makes on averge between 3k and 5k from us on a normal month, Christmas and May he makes a killing...and he works with 4 of our main competition too so i'd think he pops around $12k a month purely from high end jewelry and diamonds in a noraml month.

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    I have just added a high end jewelry site, so I hope to be making some good money in May , then at Christmas of course.
    What do people think of casino sites? Is it so competetive that it is almost impossible for someone new to make much money?

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    Lol Leader,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Glad to see you're doing well! I *knew* I was seeing less whining from your direction lately... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Jeeesh, I thought I was still doing enough whining. I better step it up before my rep gets ruined

    cjshoppingnetwork,

    No doubt the casino catagory is super highly competetive. I have a page that makes just a little bit of money each month but the traffic is that I receive to the page is pathetic. Traffic is my main problem. I've always considered myself pretty good at getting listings but for some reason no matter what I shoot for I still can't crack the casino listings . It is encouraging though to see that I can make a little bit of money with the few hits I get each day. Maybe one of these days I'll get it right for the engines. Hmmm, maybe this weekend is a good time for an overhaul.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EcomCity.com:
    Many people are constantly searching for the secret to online success. Most never find it. Some go broke trying. Yet each year the resources spent in pursuit of the 'holy grail' of Internet marketing continue to grow. This 'secret' is touted in thousands of places, in thousands of guises. The hype surrounding the subject is almost impenetrable. So dense that even the experienced can succumb. If you are just starting out online, chances are that you too will be sucked in. To save you from wasting much time and energy, if not money too, let me share the truth with you.

    The REAL secret to your online success is ...YOU!
    For every false start, there need only be one that is true
    for every idea not pursued, denies the entrepreneur in you.

    The most important criteria as to whether you 'make it' or not, is simply YOUR ATTITUDE and treating it like a real business. All other factors are secondary and really don't mount any henderence to online success! Take time to make, or have made for you, a site that even you would buy from. Have a e-business plan..fund it.. and then work & revise that plan daily based upon customer feedback!

    Charlie ...

    If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Mike,

    VERY WELL said. IMHO, this is currently my vote for the post of the year.

    IamJaloppy

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    Yes I'm doing it. It's possible ... there are a few niche areas where 5-10k per month is possible as an affiliate (for one site). There are many more areas where 1-2k per month is possible. (In which case you just need 3-5 of these areas to make 5k per month. Also if you are an affiliate and making 2-3k per month, you can then progress to being a merchant and make 6-10k per month in the same area (although there is a lot of work involved in doing this).

    Find out how much top affiliates are making at http://www.profitpuppy.com/top-affiliates.htm

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    Hi TrustNo1, Leader, DaPackster

    I discover a Wordtracker Problem today.

    Now their search terms appear the same as Overture's Tool.

    The Keyword Phase is not in correct order.

    I will cancel my account if its result is no better than Overture.


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