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    I was just curious as to what editors or how people are making their pages. I've seen Dreamweaver mentioned a few times. Hows that work? or are there some other good ones.

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    NAMO Web Editor is a great tool, inexpensive too and lots of cool built-in toys. There's a new version out. Plus Paint Shop Pro 7 which is also pretty cool and has a GIF animator. I guess you could get both from Amazon for about $200.

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    Glitter, Yarn, Popsicle Sticks and Glue! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    J/K - I actually use Macromedia Dreamweaver / Fireworks Studio MX.

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    And for the Raw Code Freaks, there's Homesite (http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/ ... I use a version pre-macromedia buyout, so I don't know the product in its latest versions). For graphics I use PSP and Photoshop.

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    And for the so-raw-it's-still-on-the-animal code freaks, there's EditPlus2 http://editplus.com/

    I've got all that other stuff - Dreamweaver/Fireworks/Ultradev Studio 4, Homesite 4.5, Coldfusion Studio 5, Front Page 2000, Hot Dog Pro (somewhere), but nothing beats a *good* text editor.


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    Going with what Cedric said... If you already know HTML, I would highly recommend Homesite 5 (there may be a newer version now). It comes with a style sheet editor too .. very nice

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    >>but nothing beats a *good* text editor.<<

    I agreed with that up until the point that I discovered I could drag-and-drop image names and the height/width tags were automatically inserted.

    Never looked back and Homesite became my "good text editor." [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    Yak TD, TR and TABLE tags. Euuuuuw.

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    I stopped using Homesite when it insisted on changing my code.

    Editplus has all kinds of Cliptext and Highlighter files available for every conceivable language [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Has built-in FTP, Search and replace in all files that accepts regular expressions.

    And it only costs $35<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon38.gif>

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    Guess I'm Old Fashioned having learned HTML with HotDog Pro and a basic text editor. Ever since I learned the basics and structure I'm part of the 27 million domain owners who build sites with Microsoft Frontpage and use Paint Shop Pro for graphics.

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    40tude HTML. Sounds similar to EditPlus,but is no longer being supported and I'm not able to add other language color coding beyond what it recognizes. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img] It cost me $60 a few years back, and it's earned it's price no problemo.

    I like color coded code. Make mine peppermint, please.

    I use Photoshop when absolutely pressed to do graphics. Otherwise I prefer crayons and oil pastels.

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    Editplus has dozens of syntax highlighter and cliptex files. It's sort of open source in that respect. Users contribute to the list so there are always new contributions.

    It also has an HTML toolbar and a built-in browser (IE-based) for previewing; just no design view. HTML-wise it's "lighter" than Homesite, but if you write PHP, Coldfusion or any other language where you've got programming, html, CSS, and SQL statements in the same file or application, it's great.

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    Does anyone use or have experience with NetObjects Fusion? I have a free copy that came with my web hosting (version 5) but have never used it. Wondered if it was worth hard disk space.

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    I used an early version of NetObjects Fusion (2.0 I think) because the old Novell CIP certification tests had some questions on it. It was pretty good but I don't remember alot about it. NetObjects has always been considered one of the top page editors so it's probably at least worth installing if you've got it.

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    Started with hotdog, but now I use FP.

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    Seems like all the WYSIWYG stuff always needs some sort of "adjustment" with a text editor before it is ready for prime time.

    DW4 and FW4, followed by TextPad.

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    I started building pages with notepad and learned html and all that fun stuff. Later switched to Frontpage just cuz I can make pages faster with it. For graphics I use Paintshop Pro 4 - I don't like the newer versions though I own them too.

    When I need to tweak pages and fix up the code I use NoteTab Pro

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    >>I stopped using Homesite when it insisted on changing my code.<<

    Well that would do it. You must have one of the New and Improved Versions -- the old horse never changes my code... not even when I make mistakes. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    NAMO NAMO NAMO [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    I'd thought I'd mention it again because I'm quite fanatical about it. It's one of the most stable bits of software I've ever used and it doesn't muck around with your HTML. Switching between wizziwig and HTML edit view is really simple. And it's not Microsoft [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    I use [Lowering my head in shame] FrontPage. I've been using it since it first came out and somehow find it easiest to use, but am always frowned upon by others when I tell them I use it. Hey, my sites bring in the bucks, what do I care what they say, right? I've use and own Dreamweaver, but when it comes to a late night session to create a website, I still fall back to Frontpage.

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    Frontpage. For speed only. Sure, I could hand code 18 million nested tables in notepad, but in this business, who has that kind of time?

    They are all pretty good nowadays. Find one you like and in your price range and stick with it.

    Just don't listen to those people that will tell you that WYSIWYG editors are bad. If a tool can help me make more pages, faster, which can make me more money, how can it be bad? I've built website templates for several Fortune 500 companies using Frontpage.

    Seriously, some people place way to much importance on having ultra-clean code. I say grip it and rip it. Just don't let it get too bulky or messed up or it could effect download times, etc...

    However, I think you should definitely learn html. There is always something that doesn't work right in complex layouts that you need to tweak by hand.

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    I use Frontpage too. Nice to get the immediate WYSIWYG, and have the flexibility to be able to go straight into the html and edit it.

    I like the image composer that came with it, which included a gif animator. At first I had no idea there was even a second disk in the box, nor that it contained the image composer and animator. They had hidden it under the flip of the case.

    I use Corel Photo-Paint-6 for my graphics too.

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    >>Seriously, some people place way to much importance on having ultra-clean code. I say grip it and rip it.<<

    There's a time and place for everything. If you live in a world where the code you create will never be someone else's nightmare, that's dandy. If, on the other hand, you have a team of people working on code, that kind of coding seriously hampers the work effort. Or if you design a corporate site that some other poor developer is going to have to maintain. There are very good reasons for programming standards.

    And developers who choose to ignore them just cause headaches for other people.

    When I was in the corporate world, nobody on my team ever put out code that couldn't pass serious HTML validation, 100% error free. As an Affiliate Marketer? I shudder to think about trying to validate my code -- I'm guessing about 85% error free is my standard now. But if I was in the corporate world tomorrow, I'd still insist on 100%.

    And I think 95% of the WYSIWYG editors out there are crap. That said? If FrontPage works for someone and Affiliate Marketing is how they make a living (not as a professional web designer), I think they should USE FRONTPAGE.

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    Dreamweaver Ultradev 4
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    Dreamweaver 4.

    But first I learned HTML. That has come in handy because a lot of times I have to "force the issue" with DW. No Notepad needed--the Code View window works fine. I wouldn't go back to hand-coding entire pages, that took way too much time!

    I've also got Fireworks 4 but I do so few graphics that I can't really say I use it to "build web pages". But it comes in handy occasionally.

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