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    ABW Founder Haiko de Poel, Jr.'s Avatar
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    Is there a program ...
    ... web based or PC based that takes your url and then searches all the major engines and returns your positions on those engines for keywords that you don't specify?

    Meaning ... I enter ABW into the software and learn that I rank #2 for 'marketing forum' in google, #19 in Yahoo etc and returns other keywords and the respective positions per engine as well BUT, I never specified to the software 'marketing forum' but it searched for ABW and 'found' that listing, make sense?
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    I does make sense but it is impossible
    To find out the rank you need a keyword. The tool could guess it, but you can never be sure if it got all of them...
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    Haiko I don't know if this would be of any use to you, but I use the following website to check my search engine rankings: http://www.instantposition.com. You can check your SE saturation, link popularity and they have a keyword verification checker - all for Free. You just need to register as a member.

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    That would be a nice piece of software, but it would need some sort of filter. My page will land at #1 in google every time for obscure keyword strings on my pages only.

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    I think it could be done if the software scans your page for potential keywords and phrases and cross lists it with a keyword database like WordTracker. That would be really neat and helpful.
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    But in doing that you'd either really annoy the search engines by having so many queries or need to have it run rather slowly so they don't block your IP. Even with Google's API you'd run out of queries too soon to check a large number of keywords.

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    Haiko, you already have that information to a certain extent, in your logfiles. They contain the keywords people are using to get to the site. You simply parse your logfiles for those keywords and then enter them into a ranking program.

    You probably rank for other keywords as well, obscure or not as the case may be, but if nobody is searching on them ...

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    I like Woz's idea.
    Perhaps something where you could copy all your keywords from your logfiles into a csv file and then the ranking program would import that, check all those keywords and tell you how you rank for the domain specified.

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    I don't think that's what Haiko is looking for. I've thought about this in the past also. The problem with the log files is that you're only getting search words relevant to your site. I think he wants to know which keywords he is not using that people use to search for a site.

    The way I've attempted to find those words is to use a system like Word Tracker to find associated words and then see how many people per day search for those words.

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    Bob,

    No, Haiko is looking for keyword that he is already on high positions - the solution from Woz would solve the problem.
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    keyword analyzer
    web based or PC based that takes your url and then searches all the major engines and returns your positions on those engines for keywords that you don't specify?

    Meaning ... I enter ABW into the software and learn that I rank #2 for 'marketing forum' in google, #19 in Yahoo etc and returns other keywords and the respective positions per engine as well BUT, I never specified to the software 'marketing forum' but it searched for ABW and 'found' that listing, make sense?
    I don't know of any program that will automatically search for all the keywords in your url and return those positions in the serps, but here is a tool that will analyze your copy and return keywords & keyword density in your copy that you may not be targeting or utillizing.

    http://www.ranks.nl/tools/spider.html

    It will help in identifying phrases that you may rank for but didn't include. Then you can take the phrases and do a manual search for each one to see your position.

    I recently learned something interesting, google will "theme" your site keywords,
    this is why some folks get listings for keywords that they didn't specify or include. To find the google themes, go to google and type in (tilde)keyword.
    example:
    ~keyword
    You'll get bolded results for some words. For example, I entered ~fishing.
    google returned (in bolded copy) fish.
    Enter a space, minus sign and the bolded keyword.
    Ex. ~fishing -fish
    Google returns other bolded keywords, including trout. So I enter
    ~fishing -fish -trout
    and get more results with bolded keywords including lakes.
    The next step is ~fishing -fish -trout -lakes.
    Keep entering the bolded words until you get no more results. The string I ended up with for fishing is: "Your search - ~fishing - fish -trout -lakes -tackle -fishing -fish - did not match any documents."

    When you reach this point, these results are the themes google associates with the keyword "fishing".
    So if you utilize all the above theme keywords in your copy and keyword targeting, your pages are optimized for google's theme.

    This is why you may target the keyword "fishing" yet have results pop up in another area like "tackle" - they are all common themes.

    Make sense?

    Later,
    Rick K.

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    Rick: great post - very helpful.
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    Great piece of knowledge, Rick. Thanks for sharing!
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