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    Haiko,
    Seems like there are on and off advertisements that pop-up, some MLM, and some are not. Also seems like a lot of debate about them, many pros and cons from ABW members. Have you considered setting up a forum dedicated to this and only this. It keeps the advertisements/spam outside of the other discussions. On top of that, other ABW members would have no reason to complain if it fell into this seperate forum. ABW members could also comment on the advertising, noting if things are scams pyramids, or legit advertisements. Just a thought.

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    All,

    Feedback please .... yea or nea!

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    Seems like an ok idea to me. It's not like anyone would get fooled from ABW.

    Most likely, the intelligent members of the ABW community would "lay the smack down" on a fraudulent ad right away. Might be fun to watch.

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    More opinions please!

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    I think it's a good idea, if it only stops one newbie (or someone like myself) from falling for these type of scams it will be worth it. Good idea Tom.

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    It seems like a reasonable compromise and the right thing to do.

    Do you think they would do the same for hard working e-tailers and web publishers trying to share within their exclusive clubs and web rings? :rolleyes:

    Tough call.

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    Not sure about this personally. I can see problems looming with an ad forum - ie: mucho rubbish from MLM partners/affiliates/whatever they call themselves; people arguing about the offers posted and so on.

    The question is, as it always has to be, do we need an advertising forum ? What benefit would it bring ? My opinion is that it is a recipe for disaster.
    www.webhostingtalk.com has an offers/advertising forum and they have had many problems setting down the rules for it - and that's only web hosts. At one point they allowed only the initial post to be made with no replies. That was a good idea, I felt as it didn't turn in to a mass argument and allowed people who were interested to do their own due dilligence and research.

    Still think it's not a good idea, though.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I can see problems looming with an ad forum.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I said the same thing the last time this was brought up.

    I'd say put it up for a trial period and see what happens. If it get's out of hand then just take it off, I'm now really interested to see what happens if there is an ad forum.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I can see problems looming with an ad forum - ie: mucho rubbish from MLM partners/affiliates/whatever they call themselves; people arguing about the offers posted and so on. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I agree with Mark. It would only legitimize the kind of scams and trash I thought we were trying to keep off ABW. Newbies won't understand and will tend to think that if it's posted here, it's got ABW's endorsement no matter how many disclaimers you put up explaining the intent of the forum. It's confusing for newbies to understand the various forums here and their meaning, and "too bad you didn't read the small print" just doesn't cut it when I thought we were supposed to be trying to help people.

    It'll just attract the wrong element and turn ABW into an ad board like the others.
    More often than not, ads and MLMs here bring a negative reaction from members in the first place unless they are involved with the program they are promoting - ie, from past posts it seems most find it undesirable.


    The only reason someone would want to post an ad is so they can make money from it - meaning from ABW members - so I say if they want to advertise - have them PAY you for banner advertising and help support the board!

    [ 07-07-2002: Message edited by: eaglefire ]

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    Great point guys. I orginially suggested it to keep some of that crud outside of the other forums. Just wanted to put it all in its own forum so people can take it for what it's worth. Think of the drive-by spammers promoting their product, or the discussions on selling satellite dishes in the Midnight Cafe...it was a matter of controlling some of the stuff that comes through, and there is sure to be more of it down road.

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    What you say is true, TH, but creating an ad forum actually serves to legitimize this kind of post not marginalize it.

    The way it is now, moderators/administrators can just delete or close a thread if it is spam and the members seem very good at self-policing.

    My vote is still against.

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    I vote Nay, for the reasons MarkyMark and Eaglefire said.

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