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    Angry AOL / IM BIG issue
    For those of you who communicate via AOL /IM as I do
    AOL's Terms of Service Update for AIM Raises Eyebrows

    America Online, Inc. has quietly updated the terms of service for its AIM instant messaging application, making several changes that is sure to raise the hackles of Internet privacy advocates.

    The revamped terms of service, which apply only to users who downloaded the free AIM software on or after Feb. 5, 2004, gives AOL the right to "reproduce, display, perform, distribute, adapt and promote" all content distributed across the chat network by users.

    "You waive any right to privacy. You waive any right to inspect or approve uses of the content or to be compensated for any such uses," according to the AIM terms-of-service.

    Although the user will retain ownership of the content passed through the AIM network, the terms give AOL ownership of "all right, title and interest in any compilation, collective work or other derivative work created by AOL using or incorporating this [user] content.

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    All Around Web Guy Cursal's Avatar
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    WOW! Guess I'll try and be even for discreet than I am already. I mostly discuss business related material (non-sensitive), but I know AIM is susch a powerful communication tool and this seem a bit much.

    I will look deeper at the Yahoo IM and see what it says.
    Also looking into setting up a mozilla chat account.

    Thanks for the heads up Adam,

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    notary sojac Herb ԿԬ's Avatar
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    the open source version, GAIM, which will work in Windows OK, can act like all three IMs in one. As long as you have the accounts it will work with them. and it doesn't come with weatherbug, either. (unlike AOL IM)

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    MasterMike HardwareGeek's Avatar
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    People need to learn the difference between TOS and Privacy Policy. People also need to learn to read the entire TOS instead of a portion of it. Because just reading the portion will cause a person to take it out of context, and its pretty sad that so many people are bashing AOL for their TOS claiming it says something but when you read the entire TOS you see it really means something else. AOL could of used better wording but then people would complain that they have no clue what it means.

    BTW the portion quoted in the first post talks about the content AOL delivers via AIM Today. It claims they are the sole owners of that content and that as a user we have no right to dictate how the content is displayed or use it in anyway. Them it goes on to say we the user waive the right to privacy. But the privacy they are speaking of is the privacy on our computer screen along with any comments you posted in a PUBLIC Chat room or an AIM forum.

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    AOL To Modify AIM Terms of Service

    America Online Inc. plans to make three small but significant modifications to the terms of service for its AIM instant messaging product to head off a firestorm of privacy-related criticisms.

    The tweaks to the terms of service will be made in the section titled "Content You Post" and will explicitly exclude user-to-user chat sessions from the privacy rights an AIM user gives up to AOL.,1759,1776146,00.asp

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    MasterMike HardwareGeek's Avatar
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    eweek exagerates. AOL said in a press release they were sorry for using wording that wasn't artfull. the TOS says the same thing but they chose better wording.

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