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    Thumbs up Vbulletin link redirect (mostly to prevent spamming)
    Hi,
    I'm thinking of starting a forum (that's we need, right ?), and I was wondering how hard it would be to setup a redirect method to discourage spamming, or getting credit for plain links. For example when a spammer puts his, let's say Staples affiliate link, and a user clicks, the link is routed automatically with my affil ID. Or, when a well meaning user posts a plain staples.com/product_page link, that link also get's my ID. Someone got to pay to keep the lights on

    I have seen many forums like this and I was surprised to see that even links inside /product pages worked. Does anyone have any idea as what it takes and what would I need? I assume I need at least a file or db table with
    store_name - my affil link
    but not sure what else. Any known issues with these things?

    any help would be greatly appreciated,
    Last edited by walkman; April 3rd, 2005 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Wrong forum. Can someone please pm a mod to move it to PHP. I can't find the link. Sorry

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    ROLMAO ...Great way to cookie stuff the forum spammers. Just devise a script to convert their spam into your spam.
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    I'm sorry, but how is it spam or cookie stuffing?
    If they come to the non-forum part of my site and click, they click on my affil link. Is it spam then too? If it doesn't effect the legitimate user, why shouldn't I make money? Who will pay for the forum's dedicated server ?

    Unless I'm missing something, as long as it's activated by a legitimate click and not pop-ups or other fishy techniques it's not cookie stuffing. The merchant doesn't get screwed because he only pays for sales, and the spammer shouldn't get rewarded for spamming.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecomcity
    ROLMAO ...Great way to cookie stuff the forum spammers. Just devise a script to convert their spam into your spam.

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    Let's take this from the small fry attempt to monitize their forum traffic and put this "drop in the ocean" into the larger picture.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01...mer_interview/
    Exclusive Sam - let's call our interviewee Sam, it's suitably anonymous - lives in a three-bedroom semi-detached house in London, drives a vintage Jaguar and runs his own company. But "it's not not all rock and roll and big money", says Sam. What isn't? Spamming websites and blogs with text to pump up the search engine rankings of sites pushing PPC (pills, porn and casinos), that's what.

    For that's what Sam does, pretty much all day long. He - we'll use the male notation, it's easier - would do this anyway for fun, but it's more than fun; he says he can earn seven-figure sums doing this. Sam is a link spammer. He's unapologetic about it. Skilled in Perl, LWP and PHP, Sam's first professional programming was done aged 13, when he sold some code to a gaming company. He's 32 now, and spoke to The Register on condition of anonymity....... read it it's a great insight into greed marketing


    This just in. Apparently the www.Wordpress.org site is hosting spammy articles on certain high-profit topics to attract click revenues from Adwords. Since WP.org has a high pagerank, they get a lot of traffic, and thus a lot of revenue. The full story is at Waxy.org. I was only mildly upset about the whole matter, thinking They surely could have found a means of generating revenue that wasn’t in a grey zone. Well, they surely just stepped out of that grey zone.

    http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2005/...s-and-cloaking

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03..._keyword_scam/

    http://www.waxy.org/archive/2005/03/30/wordpres.shtml

    When a PR8 site WP.com running open source blogging S/W turns to the darkside with a cloaking scheme the small fry become empowered for using more tricks for clicks.

    The Problem. Wordpress is a very popular open-source blogging software package, with a great official website maintained by Matt Mullenweg, its founding developer. I discovered last week that since early February, he's been quietly hosting at least 120,000 168,000 articles on their website. These articles are designed specifically to game the Google Adwords program, written by a third-party about high-cost advertising keywords like asbestos, mesothelioma, insurance, debt consolidation, diabetes, and mortgages. (Update: Google is actively removing every article from their results, but here's a saved copy of the first page of results. You can still view about 25,000 results on Yahoo. Here's an example of some results in MSN.)

    Why Wordpress? The Wordpress homepage has a very high Google Pagerank of 8/10, largely because every Wordpress-powered blog links to the Wordpress homepage by default. The high pagerank affects their ranking in Google search results, making context-sensitive Google ads very profitable. This, in turn, makes Wordpress very attractive to advertisers.

    The Butthole funding this fiasco is the wank at http://hotnacho.com/ automating content spam for the masses of scumbag affiliates.
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    Great stories but they have absolutely nothing to do with my situation. Running the forum cost money and if anyone is to profit, it should be the forum owner. No one but the spammers are hurt. The users still go to the merchant's site, and the merchant has agreed in advance to pay me whatever % for legitimate traffic from my site.

    if users are posting about sales at Buy.com for example, why shouldn't I get credit if people access the store from my forums?

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    Let me take a guess that your forum is for posting affiliate enabled merchant deals and coupons by you and your guests.
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    wrong guess. they will be posted on the non-forum section. this is to ideally keep the people coming back and have them post things I can't, dont; know about, or don't have time to. even if I did what you said, I don't see how's that a problem. Whether you post them on a html file, cms, your forum or a custom script, what does it matter? to each his own.

    Anyway, I don't want to seem like I am picking an argument.

    Can anyone please help me with the original question (on post #1)?

    I would really appreciate any help,



    Quote Originally Posted by ecomcity
    Let me take a guess that your forum is for posting affiliate enabled merchant deals and coupons by you and your guests.

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