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    Plazan Merchant Neil's Avatar
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    just to spam us ???
    as a merchant with shareasale, can i ask ????
    do we get people signing up to our programs
    just to spam us ???
    as i have had alot of sign ups from
    sites offering SEO work, network solutions, hosting , etc etc.
    and we are nothing to do with anything like that,,
    or are they just the sites that put up as fronts, as they dont want
    you to know who they are,,
    brian ??? anyone ????
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    As a merchant, you are making a very classic error. The sites you see are not necessarily the sites the affiliate has in mind to use your products on at all.

    People often sign up before even buying the domain they want to use you on.

    Some people have over a hundred sites but they will only list one or two. First of all it is a pain in the butt to list them. Secondly, they are not going to give their whole site list to every merchant they sign up for. That is proprietary information.

    They may have other reasons, personal reasons for listing the sites they do. For instance, I mostly list my witch sites. If they think they are too righteous to be on those sites, damned if the are going on my mundane sites, either. That is my personal way of eleminating people I don't want to earn money for! They can rot as far as I am concerned.

    If you have questions, ask the affiliate if they have definite plans for your products. It may have been only an idea. But, often if you are interested they will get to it faster. But, put that in the title of the e-mail or it may be deleted with all the other merchant spam we get.

    Title of the email might be something like, "Hey, Becky! How do you want to use our products? We are interested."
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    And maybe a few more
    >Some people have over a hundred sites but they will only list one or two.

    There are affiliates with over 50,000 sites and that number is conservative.

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    I think Neil is referring to affiliates who sign up for his program, and then contact him trying to sell him services.
    Thanks,

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    I can feel some of Neil's pain. It is hard to understand why someone who makes commercial websites wants to advertise kid recliners. I sent this one affiliate an email asking them their plans to advertise our products. I waited for a few days and got a bounced-back email so I removed them from my program. Now, again after a few weeks they applied and got approved again (we are on auto-approve), and I sent them an email again enquiring about their plans… still waiting to hear back.

    Meanwhile, I think it is only fair for the merchants to have more affiliate information - the same way the affiliates can find out about merchants. From a merchant's point of view, the most important thing for us is to know what kind of traffic our affiliates generate. It would be nice to have such an indicator for all the affiliates who apply for our programs. But as SSanf made it clear that some affiliates have hundreds of sites and they don't necessarily sign up the one that they plan to use to advertise your products, I don't think there is any other way to know more about your affiliates. You can't send them too many emails inquiring because you get shot-down for spamming then.
    Can Brian add an indicator that shows the sales that have been made the affiliate? Who knows?

    It is not easy and nobody said it is. I am still new to the affiliate marketing and I am learning every day.

    Good luck Neil.

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    Neil, I do understand. I think I am signed up with you but it all takes time.

    For instance, I am working on a new mall. It is a major project with probably hundreds of thousands of pages. Now, I have the additional burden of putting LOL "unique" content on every single page. If it is to be "unique", every page has to have that part added by hand. You can only automate just so much.

    Have you ever sat down and written 100,000 unique, three paragraph, keyword stuffed, sales copy comments? Even with a program to help write, they have to be added to the pages. Talk about boring and tedious!

    When I get to the main furniture merchant, I am sure I will put you in with the kids furniture.

    In order not to get lost, I am more or less doing the merchants I want in alpha-numeric order. I have to use a system or it all becomes a mess. It is hard when you skip around all the time. You forget what you have done and what you haven't done.

    Now, I see you have added more stuff and I am done with the toys. Well, I will probably pick those up when I add the furniture.

    This is a long term business.
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    Some people have over a hundred sites but they will only list one or two.
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    There are affiliates with over 50,000 sites and that number is conservative.
    Are you two serious or just throw in some numbers?



    After I read this thread, I'm about to or myself, I am just can't believe those numbers.

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    Someone send them a link to www.abestweb.com/domains/ .... maybe when the parasites say they are going to make my but bleed, there will be something to bleed

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    Niel,

    Email me on Sunday (for Monday) please.

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    BTW - I've been a SAS merchant for over 2 years and have never gotten a spamarific email from an affiliate.
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    Hi Neil

    This is true across all networks and avoiding it comes down to 2 things

    1. The networks own checks prior to granting access, for which SAS is ahead of the curve
    2. Manually reviewing all applications to your program, ensure that the site signing up is one that makes sense for you to have in your program, and, ensuring it is owned by the person that claims to own it.

    One option is to contact every new sign up on SAS to ask them where they will be promoting you and, if you doubt what they say then ask them for proof. A couple of specific countries I request the applicants to show proof of ownership by making a specific change to a specific page for me before I approve them.

    Also remember that SAS has Full and Limited members, Full members are those that have had sales and can therefore be trusted to not be spoofing you just to Spam you

    Cheers

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    well!!! i went to bed after posting that Q.
    and got up to this...
    i am 10 hrs ahead of most of the states...

    so...who said you cant learn stuff on here...???

    loads and loads of great feedback and many good ideas.


    Thanks a bunch all of you
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    10 hours ahead.... India? Or somewhere in Russia

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    Hi Chris

    The beautiful Mediterranean island of Cyprus.
    its 9.30 am here.
    your up late , .
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    Haiko if we have domains bought and paid for somewhere else can we renew them or add years to the registration through you?

    Never mind. Looks like we would have to pay to transfer it to you.
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    The beautiful Mediterranean island of Cyprus.
    its 9.30 am here.
    your up late
    2 PM here I have a good friend living in Cyprus (Gem Dealer not E-Commerce stuff) , hope to make it over there once the kids have grown up a tad.

    Cheers

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    Some people have over a hundred sites but they will only list one or two.
    I know a few that are in that area. One site one focus.

    In some cases one site, 3 or 4 products, within one niche.

    cheers

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    I think most of us have a combination, some malls, some niches.

    Sometimes, the malls are used to test merchants out. If you perform there, then you may be worth building a focused site for.
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    i think it is what you are saying,,
    they just use that domain to register,,
    and they have other plans for your products..
    i will email all, and ask intentions,,,,


    Chris,
    get to cyprus if you get the chance, its a fantastic island.

    ssanf,
    i think you have me wrong with another merchant,, i dont do furniture..

    but many have given me some good advise\pointers, in this thread

    my program is going well, but a few tweeks and twists..
    with the info from today shall help improve,,

    haiko,
    i will send you an email sunday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil
    i think it is what you are saying,,
    they just use that domain to register,,
    and they have other plans for your products..
    i will email all, and ask intentions,,,,


    Chris,
    get to cyprus if you get the chance, its a fantastic island.

    ssanf,
    i think you have me wrong with another merchant,, i dont do furniture..

    but many have given me some good advise\pointers, in this thread

    my program is going well, but a few tweeks and twists..
    with the info from today shall help improve,,

    haiko,
    i will send you an email sunday
    I think ssanf got you confused with my products. Our site carries the kid furniture.

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    Whoops. Sorry, I was thinking of KidStuffInABox for sure.
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    No probs Ssanf..

    Though i did get some good advice from you
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSanf
    Whoops. Sorry, I was thinking of KidStuffInABox for sure.
    Ssanf, are you already a KidStuffInABox affiliate? I am curious.

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