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    Question Russky/Russki - Use it or Not?
    I am thinking of using the word "russky" or "russki" in one of my domain names, as I thought it sounds more "authentic" than just "Russian". However, while searching the Internet for the meaning of the word in English, I bumped into the following definition by the American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: russky - NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. Rus·skies Offensive A Russian

    Not being a native-speaker of English, I cannot tell what it sounds like to a "native ear". Hence, I would highly appreciate comments of those of you who speak English as their mother-tongue.

    The question is basically this: Would you (or would you not) use the word "russky" or "russki" in a domain name if an easier-to-remember "russian" is already taken (e.g.: RussianVodka.com - taken, while RusskyVodka.com or RusskiVodka.com are not yet occupied)? Please give your arguments to pros and/or cons, and what - in your opinion - reads best ("russky" or "russki").

    Many thanks in advance!

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    That was the common term used by us for Russians all through the cold war. It certainly doesn't make me think of anything positive.... If you are directing at Americans, it will probably have a similar effect. Even recently I have heard the term used towards certain individuals (we have a high population of Russian Jews where I live) in a non-favorable way. I think some people can take it lightlly, but it really depends on a) what you want people to do/buy on this site, and b) who you are marketing too, and c) what effect you really want to have on visitors.

    I don't know...personally I wouldn't use it. If only 18% of your vistors find it offensive or bothersome, that's still 18% that might have bought something...

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    Dunno. Guess, I wouldn't cotton too well to a site that called me a Mick or an Injun.

    What's a derogatory term for a person of English extraction? I am one of those mutt types.
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    Hi Dasha,

    I'm half Russian on my mother's side of the family. I don't have any negative associations with the word Russki but then no one's ever used it in a derogatory way in my presence. However, I don't think it's a word that all Americans would be familiar with.

    Overall I think using the word Russki would be a mistake. Some people would think it's derogatory and others wouldn't know what it means. People like me who know what it means and don't have a bad association with it are probably in the minority.

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    >>>What's a derogatory term for a person of English extraction? I am one of those mutt types.

    only one I know right off is "WASP": White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, but that also has religious connotations. unless you're a denizen of a 'hood, in which whitey works. Don't you remember? (just kidding -- I drove through your old neighborhood this morning.)

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    Naw, I remember. It is "Limey", I think.
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    It's nothing but derrogatory. BTW, RussianWhatever sounds more "authentic" than RusskiWhatever ... which actually sounds like a POS version of whatever. I think you'd be better off using a russian version of Russki - (ie. how does one say Russian in Russian) or making up an americanized version of a russian word but there the problem is the diff alphabet .. подарок means nothing to most.
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    Just put your avatar on each page, nobody will notice what the name of the site is. :-)
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    This is a tough one. As an American, when I see it written it looks like the slang term for a Russian used during the cold war, i.e. not so good. As someone with a couple years of college Russian under his belt, it looks like you have a clue about Russian and are using it.

    The problem is sort of one of pronunciation. "Russ-key" is slang. "Ruse-key" is Russian for Russian.

    Now, there is an alternative that suggests itself. Russian is a gendered language in which the adjective's form has to match the gender of the noun it modifies. Now, Vodka is feminine, so it would not be Russki, but Russkaya. So, you could go with RusskayaVodka.com. Except it is taken by the iVodka people. Never mind.

    I think I end up with the people who say nyet to using Russk[iy]. Unless they know their Russian, it looks kind of cheap. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infospongellc
    Just put your avatar on each page, nobody will notice what the name of the site is. :-)
    EXCUSE ME?!.... (kindly clarify the statement)

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    lstolze, SSanf, Haiko, everyone else... Thank you for your constructive feedback! I highly appreciate it and am looking forward to more!!!

    By the way: is .net much worse (for the domain name extension) - in your opinion - than .com (psychologically, etc)? Say, if RussianVodka.COM is taken, would you take RussianVodka.NET or just look for a whole different associative match?

    Yours,

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    Hey Dasha

    I think you shoudl try these names.

    buhat'vodka.com
    Davaj_otorvemsyavodka.com
    zhrat'Vodka.com
    naveselevodka.com

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    Oh I forgot

    pit'_zapoem.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha

    EXCUSE ME?!.... (kindly clarify the statement)
    Just meant your avatar was cute...no offense was intended.

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    On a constructive note...maybe you should try and think of something that people associate with Russia something catchy and clever.

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    I'd say RusskaVodka sounds better than RusskyVodka - in both english and russian.

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    When I served in the Marines, we used "Russki" as a slang term, but not in a derogatory sense. I do seem to recall that when we started doing limited fleet exchanges in mid-to-late '80's, they would refer to us as Americanski - no offense taken.

    Any term is likely to offend someone.

    btw...being a WASP is not a derogatory term either - originally coined by E Digby Baltzell, a social demographer.

    As for "limey" that phrase originated from the British Navy's habit of incorporating lime juice into the sailors diet in the mid-1800's (I believe) to ward off scurvy.

    Sorry for the "lesson" I love etymology!
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    Quote Originally Posted by biz36
    Hey Dasha

    I think you shoudl try these names.

    buhat'vodka.com
    Davaj_otorvemsyavodka.com
    zhrat'Vodka.com
    naveselevodka.com
    Very funny... I must disappoint you, but "vodka" is used only as a sample word here. The website is not going to be about vodka at all.

    Are you Russian, biz36? Where from?

    Dasha

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    Actually my roots are eeehhhemm Polish(that might open the door to some jokes later on), but I have a few close friends that are Russian, and drinking is one of our hobbies. Hence all the terms from above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_NLC
    When I served in the Marines, we used "Russki" as a slang term, but not in a derogatory sense. I do seem to recall that when we started doing limited fleet exchanges in mid-to-late '80's, they would refer to us as Americanski - no offense taken...
    Oh, man... I just LOVE these stories... Glad this thread turned into something interesting for everyone (not just for me). As for the Marines and stuff, may be I should then put up a site with Russian militaria, calling is RusskiMilitaria.com, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha
    By the way: is .net much worse (for the domain name extension) - in your opinion - than .com (psychologically, etc)? Say, if RussianVodka.COM is taken, would you take RussianVodka.NET or just look for a whole different associative match?
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    I think the spelling is as much a problem as the connotation. Words like podarok cited above transliterate will enough, but technical translate has a j on the end of that word; russkij. And that just assumes nominative case. {sigh} It's really just not worth mucking with.
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