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    So Who is Lobbying and With How Many $$$?
    180Solutions: Total 2004: $160,000
    Bills Lobbied:
    HR 2929 SafeGuard Against Privacy Invasion Act
    HR 4255 Computer Software Privacy and Control Act
    HR 4661 Internet Spyware Prevention Act of 2004
    S 2145 SPYBLOCK Act

    Claria: Total 2004: $520,000 (plus and additional less than $10k for first half 2004Y)
    Bills Lobbied:
    HR 2929 and related legislation
    HR 4661 Internet Spyware Prevention Act of 2004
    S 2145 SPYBLOCK Act

    WhenU: Total 2004: $260,000
    Lobbied Bills:
    HR 2929
    HR 4255
    S 2131
    S 2145

    DoubleClick: Registered for Lobbying in 2005. No dollar amounts reported yet
    HR 2929

    ValueClick: Registered for Lobbying in 2005. No dollar amounts reported yet
    HR 2929

    BTW, DoubleClick and ValueClick have the same lobbying firm on file.

    I'll post more as I come across them. Anyone particular folks want searched, post them here.

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    How about FastClick?
    Ebates?
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    Buying political influence, it ain't unique to the US, but it sure is sad. Unethical people can take their earnings and pave the way to do more. Covers several of the deadly sins, all at once...

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    Leader, nothing showed for FastClick or Ebates.

    Sure wish they had it set up to search by the bill number.

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    Maybe eBates was grouped under lobby monies by the TopMoxie group.
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    I've never understood the American way. Are you saying that these companies are in effect buying poloticians to prevent there unethical practices from being stopped?

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    Where are you doing the lookups?

    I had at one time (a hundred years ago) worked with http://www.opensecrets.org/ - probably the most depressing project ever. But this is hardly the American Way - it is the world way, just the american system makes it more transparent - and more agonizing when people ignore it.

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    If someone pays a "bribe" (a secret payment or favor done in exchange for a favorable decision) that is illegal, and they (really) may end up in prison for it.
    But if someone does "lobbying" or makes a "campaign contribution" it's fine (as long as they jump certain hoops along the way [like registering as a lobbyist]). I think the difference is that the legal ways are subject to countermaneuvering, outbidding, etc. For instance, often when there's lobbying/campaign-contributing going on, there's another group lobbying for the exact opposite thing.

    Like Chet says, it's just a variant of the world way. But it seems fairer than trying to guess who's bidding on what and for how much. For instance, this way we know that $550,000 will out-lobby Claria's 2004 effort. If a well-heeled place wanted to outdo them (for instance, Microsoft), that would be very helpful information...
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    Chet I'm searching on the senate web site http://sopr.senate.gov/

    @admad1: The lobbyist hired by these companies could be lobbying either way. They put forth the positions and desires of what their clients want to see in the law to the politicians.

    I'm not going to debate the whole lobbying thing. However, if I have access to public records of how much is being spent by different companies I'm not going to ignore that either. While not always a guarantee, the dollar amounts can indicate who is gaining access to the politicians ears. When I see Claria has dropped over half a million on the legislation for spyware in Congress right now and I put that with public reports of Claria supporting the legislation, then I ask myself what is in that legislation (which has gone through several rewrites as laws do) that Claria may be finding favorable to themselves.

    Mike, TopMoxie was not listed. But that was a good thought.

    A couple more I found:

    M$ is listed....quite frequently...to the tune of millions. Of course, there are numerous issues in Congress of interest to M$. The spyware bills are one of them and news reports have mentioned M$ weighing in on them more than once. It's just not so easy to tell how much of their total lobbying expenditure is being devoted to this issue. I do remember posting a link to an article which stated M$ was one of several companies pushing for legislatures to use existing laws to deal with the spyware issue instead of a new law which may not be effective. They also were pushing in favor of a clause in the law which would prevent suits by adware companies towards the removal applications.

    Association of National Advertisers: total $840,000
    HR 69 Online Privacy Protection
    HR 2929 SafeGuard Against Privacy Invasion Act
    HR 4255 Computer Software Privacy and Control Act
    HR 4661 Internet Spyware Prevention Act of 2004

    Ebay: total $190,000 (this one actually surprised me a bit)
    spyware/privacy issues

    Internet Commerce Coalitioon: total $120,000
    ISPY Act

    COAST: total $20,000
    public policy regarding standards for spyware

    Google: $180,000
    sypware issues (along with some other issues not related)

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    So much for government by the people for the people, huh?

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    It's the old Golden Rule! --- He who has the gold - rules!

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