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    Free ecards affiliate program?
    Can anyone vouch for a free ecards/greeting cards affiliate program? I have searched for such, and have found some "advertisers" who offer cobranded card sites/pages. HOWEVER! They have no info on payment, and only offer an email link for inquiries!

    I know this particular promotion may seem played out to some of you, but it makes a good filler, and possible revenue earner for my site. Does anyone know where I can go to find a reputable advertiser offering free greeting cards - ecards, printable, snail mail, digital, etc...? I am looking for something that pays a buck a lead, at least, or pays cpc.
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    [B][COLOR=Red]I look forward to Google's demise[/COLOR][/B]
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    Hi Lurker,

    I don't know of any free card sites that pay "at least a dollar" per card sent but there are a few that I would recommend. The Card Fountain (www.cardfountain.com) pays 50 cents per ecard sent (with registration) and Super Laugh pays 10 cents. I Love You cards on ShareASale pays 5 cents per ecard sent and Ecardica (www.ecardica.com) pays 2 cents per e-card which is almost not worth the trouble but it adds up, eventually. ;-) All three pay on time. There is also The Card Shop on Linkshare that pays 25 cents per paper card sent.

    Cards have been a good "filler" for me and if you have the targeted traffic, you'll see some decent supplemental revenue from them. I would love to know about more card sites that pay per lead or sale. Anyone else know of good ones?

    Good luck!
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    Free ecards/greeting cards, it's like free screensavers. Why do you think these companies are paying you a few cents? To collect email addresses to spam your visitors or worse to install spyware on their computers, and both the sender and the recipient.
    There's no free lunch. Do you really want to be part of that? It was a good viral marketing strategy a few years ago but not anymore with all these bad actors. If you want to send ecards you still can have your own script.

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    Zeus is right on target, as usual!

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    I say screwing your visitors out of their privacy info (feuling spammers) and subjecting them to the bundled Adware/Spyware for some greed driven lead fee is hardly endeavor for any ABWers. Getting pimped out by the Adwhores for 50 cents or a dime sure shows your own NET worth and the idiocy of spreading commission theftware.

    The cure is coming as your own visitors will remember who sold them out to the Adwhore slave owners. You clowns need to become educated. Stick these facts in your next e-greeting card or any other infested freebee......

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    Spyware can clog PCs making them slow and unresponsive
    Fears over spyware have made more than 90% of American net users change their online behaviour, says a study.
    The dangers are making people swap browsers, avoid file-sharing programs and some websites says the Pew Internet and American Life Project research.

    The well publicised risk of losing personal data, having a browser hijacked or suffering endless pop-up ads is driving the change, said Pew.

    Surveys show that more than 80% of PCs are infected with unwanted spyware.

    Spyware is the name given to programs that surreptiously make their way on to Windows PCs and then subject users to pop-up adverts, hijack their start page, install bookmarks or gather information about browsing habits.

    The most malicious spyware programs lurk unseen on PCs and steal confidential information such as passwords or login details.

    Spyware victims

    Spyware and adware often travels alongside file-sharing programs or media files that people download from the web.


    Some people have swapped browsers to avoid problems
    Some websites also take advantage of bugs in Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser to install spyware on the machines of people that visit.

    The dangers of spyware are making people wary of what they do online like no other net threat, said Susannah Fox, lead author on the Pew Internet study.

    "People are feeling less adventurous, less free to do whatever they want to do online," she said.

    The research found that 91% of people have made at least one change to the way they act online because of fears about spyware, though only 43% said they had fallen victim to the programs.

    Porn dangers

    Broadband users and those who visit pornographic sites or play games online were more likely to fall victim, the research showed.

    The dangers were making people scale back on some net activities, said Ms Fox.

    The Pew research found that 48% of those questioned have stopped visiting some websites for fear that they harbour spyware. File-sharing software has been abandoned by 25% of people because it often becomes bundled with adware.

    It also revealed that 18% of net users have started using an alternative web browser such as Firefox to avoid the security problems associated with Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Microsoft recently released anti-spyware software that helps people find and remove the malicious programs.

    Anti-spyware firm Webroot estimates that 88% of PCs harbour spyware programs and most machines are home to many different strains of the software.

    The Pew research found that though many people have changed online behaviour, 20% had not cleaned up their infected computer. cheapskate acn use Free anti-spyware programs such as AdAware and Spybot are used by many people to clean up their PCs. (distinguish yourself from the other freebee perps and pus MS Anti-Virus)


    Even in the face of the Islamist's bombing London today, the above BBC article shows the pissed off populace will rip the heart out of those spreading crapware. You can safely bet some of the infestation fee funds are going to buy more bomb making materials.
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    Oh Lordy - more karma on the negative side ... nevertheless, thank you all for the insight. I assumed they were paying for traffic, links and book marks, which would increase their ad revenue potential. Doh - I've been making a nice side income from free ecards for a few months. Hate to give it up. :-( And are Card Fountain, Super Laugh and ECardica all "bad guys?" Are there ANY free e-card sites that are legitimate if they are willing to pay for traffic?
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    Just to give you an example.
    ecardica looks like a legit website, nice design, nice ecards... but look closely they link to popularscreensavers.com, same company?
    They are not afraid to state:
    No Spyware. No Adware.
    Comes with FREE MyWebSearch accessible directly from your browser, plus Search Assistant - relevant search results in response to misspelled or incorrectly formatted browser address requests.

    Now, who's MyWebSearch?
    MyWebSearch, Spyware MWSOEMON.EXE
    "Mwsoemon.exe installs with a newer variant of the MyWebSearch spyware program. Generally, a browser helper object called mwsbar.dll will install at the same time.The toolbar does add search features but the search results you see will be hijacked to mywebsearch.com. WebSearch Toolbar is an Internet Explorer search toolbar that installs adware and spyware. WebSearch Toolbar changes your browser settings. This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer or your privacy. Browser hijackers are malicious programs that change a user's web browser settings, usually altering designated default start and search pages. In addtion a browser hijacker can modify nearly every aspect of a web browser including adding bookmarks, and redirecting search traffic to alternative sites."

    One way or another you are spreading SPYWARE for a few cents.

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    How can anyone think they can pay for traffic advertising to give out freebees to the masses. Bring out the white coats as McDonalds is buying TV Ads to promote giving away free big Macs, til the kids go back to school.
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    Nothing is free. If a program is willing to pay you to drive traffic that gets something for free, they are up to something. I have found many instances of this and zero exceptions to my statement above.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleScooter
    Nothing is free. If a program is willing to pay you to drive traffic that gets something for free, they are up to something. I have found many instances of this and zero exceptions to my statement above.
    [Bold is mine] Yes, they are up to something; it's called "marketing" - let's see, M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G, which we here are all a part of. Contrary to what Mike might tell you, many of these free services are not always about planting some evil technology on your machine. However, they are about collecting data for their lists, and marketing purposes. AND YES, this often results in people getting spam omelettes, and sandwiches every day. BUT HEY, just in case you (or Mike, or anyone else) didn't realize, we (publishers/affiliates, advertisers, et al) are all a part of that machine, like it or not.

    SO.... taking Mikes point of view on all this, and maybe yours, then WE ALL are guilty! Yes, Mike, that includes you and your "mall".

    These marketers that use that info are able to make money off the data. Not just the selling of lists, but gathering metrics, and coming up with valuable marketing data, which ironically (are you paying attention Mike?) comes back around and makes a contribution to many of the advertisements/products we promote. DUH. No, wait a minute...

    DUH!
    [B][COLOR=Red]I look forward to Google's demise[/COLOR][/B]
    Look who is suing Google - [URL=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=google+gets+sued]click here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=google+gets+sued&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0]here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=google+gets+sued&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8]here[/URL]

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    I just hope you're not serious.

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    I'm watching this thread closely and I appreciate everyone's opinion and insight. Thank you!

    Would love to know exactly where various "free" sites stand in the ranks of good & evil. Is Screensavers.com OK? They are now running through CJ and so I would think they are fine. Am I an idiot to believe I can make money off of free services or are some legit?
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    Rexanne,
    Go to screensavers.com and carefully read the terms and conditions regarding the download and installation of their software. Or just go to this post. Or read the whole thread and draw your own conclusions. Everyone has their own tolerance level for various activities and sense of what is right and wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexanne
    I'm watching this thread closely and I appreciate everyone's opinion and insight. Thank you!

    Would love to know exactly where various "free" sites stand in the ranks of good & evil. Is Screensavers.com OK? They are now running through CJ and so I would think they are fine. Am I an idiot to believe I can make money off of free services or are some legit?
    No need to wait for this board input ...The people (shoppers) have spoken loud and clear in every major media outlet in the world...

    http://news.google.com/?ncl=http://w...ware-pew&hl=en

    They ALL say the info peddling, system wrecking Adware/Spyware perps monitized through the affiliate industry can be burned at the stake for the years of consumer abuse they called Marketing. I'll be damned if I added one click to any merchant who generated this perception in the mindset of the web shopper. So leave me out of the reasons surfers are turning into a lunch mob looking for payback.
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    Lurker:

    There's no way any rational person can equate taking a percentage of a sale for directing a customer toward a product that they want (affiliate marketing) and setting people up to get bombarded by spam or, worse yet, setting someone up to have spyware or adware unwittingly dumped on their computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyburbs
    Lurker:

    There's no way any rational person can equate taking a percentage of a sale for directing a customer toward a product that they want (affiliate marketing) and setting people up to get bombarded by spam or, worse yet, setting someone up to have spyware or adware unwittingly dumped on their computer.
    Ok, look, you guys (and gals), my intentions are not to promote spyware. When I asked about the ecards I was hoping to find some info on a legit advertiser, and as of yet, I have not found one that is clean. BTW, from the info in this thread I found that cardfountain.com promotes trustyhound, and according to symantec, it is a high risk spyware.

    I do have a problem with the likes of the forementioned. I do not advocate the use of spyware, or parasiteware, or adware. However, I am trying to find a legit way of providing my visitors with free greeting cards! that's it. AND, it appears, that people who have no earthly idea of what my intentions are regarding this, have indicted me in this great drive by install conspiracy! keep up the fight against spyware, but pleeease get off my back!

    I AM NOT TRYING TO PROMOTE SPYWARE!

    AND (back to the original question - sigh)

    DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND AN ADVERTISER (a clean one) THAT I CAN OFFER A FREE GREETING CARD SERVICE THROUGH TO THE VISITORS OF MY SITE?????????????

    if anyone can provide me with that info, as I had originally sought in this thread, I would greatly appreciate you doing so.

    This is, now, the second thread that has been steered off course by idiots, who know absolutely nothing about my intentions.

    Mike,

    I have always been one of your supporters, believe it or not, no matter how far out in left field... However, it is one thing to inform me, it is another to accuse me of something that I am definitely not trying to do. and, that is how your posts have come across.
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    [B][COLOR=Red]I look forward to Google's demise[/COLOR][/B]
    Look who is suing Google - [URL=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=google+gets+sued]click here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=google+gets+sued&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0]here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=google+gets+sued&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8]here[/URL]

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    Calling people idiots then asking them for advice.
    You might want to rethink that strategy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleScooter
    Calling people idiots then asking them for advice.
    You might want to rethink that strategy.
    You're right. maybe a better way of phrasing that would be,

    "It is frustrating, and sometimes difficult, to keep a thread on topic when the ball is contantly getting hit way out in left field"
    Last edited by Lurker Jones; July 8th, 2005 at 11:34 AM. Reason: correction
    [B][COLOR=Red]I look forward to Google's demise[/COLOR][/B]
    Look who is suing Google - [URL=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=google+gets+sued]click here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=google+gets+sued&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0]here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=google+gets+sued&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8]here[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker Jones
    DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND AN ADVERTISER (a clean one) THAT I CAN OFFER A FREE GREETING CARD SERVICE THROUGH TO THE VISITORS OF MY SITE?????????????
    Hi Mike,

    I use http://www.cartoonstock.com/greetings.asp for one of my sites. I couldn't find anything to indicate they weren't clean but I'm sure if they are not, someone will let me know .

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    Just have look at your cartoon stock. You have a Google ad on top, with Free E-Cards
    Choose from a huge selection of Free Electronic Greeting Cards. Go there and here you are myfuncards.com
    An other one spreading SPYWARE. Comes with FREE MyWebSearch accessible
    directly from your browser, plus SEARCH ASSISTANT - relevant search results in response to misspelled or incorrectly formatted browser address requests.

    This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer or your privacy.

    Do we need to say more? If you use the word FREE, want it or not you're going to help these scums directly or indirectly like thru Google.

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    "DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND AN ADVERTISER (a clean one) THAT I CAN OFFER A FREE GREETING CARD SERVICE THROUGH TO THE VISITORS OF MY SITE?????????????"

    I think this is clean:
    http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd

    Most of the others just are nothing but email collecters or try to get you to dl a toolbar or something. Send a free greeting to your friends. Enter XXX email addys and hit send. I've told friends and family never to send me anything like that to my personal email account. Never give up my email address to anybody or any site. And i don't have a spam problem in that account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    Just have look at your cartoon stock. You have a Google ad on top, with Free E-Cards
    Choose from a huge selection of Free Electronic Greeting Cards. Go there and here you are myfuncards.com
    An other one spreading SPYWARE. Comes with FREE MyWebSearch accessible
    directly from your browser, plus SEARCH ASSISTANT - relevant search results in response to misspelled or incorrectly formatted browser address requests.
    You're right about the site BUT, here is where I show my inexperience , if you actually take the time to set it up you will see that none of this is in the card interface, or the interface the sender sees.

    I tested this on my testing PC with different email accounts and the systems always came up clean afterwards..

    Like I said, I might be wrong on this but from what I tried it seemed ok..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustNo1
    "DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND AN ADVERTISER (a clean one) THAT I CAN OFFER A FREE GREETING CARD SERVICE THROUGH TO THE VISITORS OF MY SITE?????????????"

    I think this is clean:
    http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd

    Most of the others just are nothing but email collecters or try to get you to dl a toolbar or something. Send a free greeting to your friends. Enter XXX email addys and hit send. I've told friends and family never to send me anything like that to my personal email account. Never give up my email address to anybody or any site. And i don't have a spam problem in that account.
    I found printfree.com - they have a free service where people can customize there own messages and print out free cards. However, they do not have an affiliate program, and they themselves earn revenue through affiliate networks. I have looked over american greetings, and do not see a link to sign up to earn commission. However, I do think it is a good service. I know they work through yahoo as well. type in "greeting card" through yahoo search and they come up as a service of yahoo. Actually, come to think of it, american greetings was one of the first advertisers I promoted through befree years ago when I made my very first angelfire.com personal home page. I don't think they offer an affiliate program now, but I am searching. I will probably include them what I offer to my visitors, though, even if it doesn't pay. good service.
    [B][COLOR=Red]I look forward to Google's demise[/COLOR][/B]
    Look who is suing Google - [URL=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=google+gets+sued]click here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=google+gets+sued&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0]here[/URL] and [URL=http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=google+gets+sued&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8]here[/URL]

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    An other way to detect these bad actors is to look up their who is. With a little bit of experience you're going to discover who they are exactly. They hide behing multiple websites and names.
    If you see advertisements for Smiley Central, CursorMania, Screensavers, myfun something... look behind the smoke screen and expect the worse.
    It's sad to see Ask Jeeves or even Google not checking more closely their partnerships.

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    "and do not see a link to sign up to earn commission."

    I would say most free greeting card sites that have a program are up to no good. They're not going to pay you money so you can give their stuff away for free, without them getting something out of it. Places like MSN or Yahoo or some other major places that have this kind of thing offer up free ecards just as something extra to keep people coming back.

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