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    180Solutions Sues Former Affiliates for Illegal software Installations
    http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...04088969&EDATE=

    Interestingly, none of those named in the claim reside in the US. I suppose none of their US affiliates ever break their 'Distributor Code of Conduct'? What are the chances of a suit brought in the US against someone in Lebanon or Slovenia actually coming to much legally?

    I wonder if 180Solutions' accountants are putting the legal fees associated with this under 'legal expenses' or 'public relations expenses.'

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    ... "The key to deterrence is to make it harder for bad people to do bad
    things and establish consequences for misconduct," said Ken McGraw, chief
    compliance officer of 180solutions. "Our approach is a multi-faceted
    enforcement initiative that includes ongoing litigation, strong policing
    efforts, technology solutions, collaboration with consumer advocacy groups and
    continued support of strong federal legislation. Additionally, consumer
    education will be an integral part of our efforts to put the bad actors out of
    business and clean up distribution channels."

    In June, 180solutions began re-notifying each of its 20 million active
    users that its software was on the user's PC, explaining the software's
    purpose and providing simple uninstall instructions. Every new customer
    receives that same notification within 72 hours of installation and the
    company has committed to displaying similar messages to every customer at
    least once every 90 days moving forward.

    Last month, the company settled a lawsuit against Internext Media Corp.,
    in which the company had alleged that the former distributor had failed to
    properly enforce the 180solutions Code of Conduct with a former Internext
    affiliate, Aztec Marketing, S.A. Under the terms of the settlement, Internext
    paid undisclosed monetary damages to 180solutions without any admission of
    liability."

    Here's the rub folks as these wanks try to spread media spin rumors and launch meaningless lawsuits to APPEAR like 20 million folks got their software by legit OPT-IN means... No one is their right minds would install 180Solutions even if they were paid a small fee to do it! Their are no unique benefits to having 180Solutions on your system ...period. Therefore anyone engaged in putting 180Solutions into their crapware bundles and drive-by or BOT exploits are pure play cyber terrorists.
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    According to the complaint, each defendant used botnets to secretly
    install 180solutions software on the computers of unsuspecting users. Botnets
    are large networks of computers that take advantage of security holes in the
    Windows operating system to deliver applications or viruses without the
    knowledge of the user.
    So apparently drive-by installs don't count? Or does 180 not acknowledge that some of their affiliates used that method? Or is that permissible by 180's terms of use?

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    "Our top priority is to ensure that everyone who has downloaded
    180solutions software has done so through proper notification and consent
    prior to installation," said Daniel Todd, co-founder and president of
    180solutions.
    So, now he's saying he was installing his search software without notice or consent. What a crook! It's too easy to blame his own affiliates. He recruited and trained them with his own software. He knew perfectly well what he was doing and he was making money out of these illegal installations.
    Just tell me why he did nothing to deactivate them before.
    Did he got enough money from scr@wy investors to survive a few years at their expense? I think so.

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    I read here that 500 out of 8000 affiliates had been booted already because they had been caught doing evil things - in other words, 180solutions allowed hundreds of people to create drive-by installers before it panicked.

    Blaming affiliates won't necessarily protect them. You might remember this all-time-classic ABW thread when Scott Richter and his cronies came on to boast that it appeared they weren't responsible for the actions of their affiliates.. this is the same Scott Richter you coughed up $7m to Microsoft last week to settle Microsoft's spam lawsuit.

    So.. I can see that 180solutions are beginning to panic and are trying to clean up their act before the long arm of the law reaches out and grabs them. I think they've left it a little too late though..
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    Or give the appearance of it (ie something to point to and say we did due diligence).

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    The real question.

    Since they know those installs were done on the sly - have they turned off their software? If not, they are just as culpable for benefiting from this behavior.

    I would bet, they aren't suing an american advertisers because this is a show, and they don't really want to go to court and have to suffer through a discovery phase where all their underhanded practices get displayed.

    Could you see the judge?

    J: "So you are suing these people because they did sneaky installs - but you still keep those end users active and even keep showing them ads"

    180: "yes"

    J: "But you know they never asked for the software"

    180: "Maybe they have grown to like it? It would violate their privacy to turn it off now"*

    * Based on a 180 employee giving this excuse here on ABW on why they don't turn off ill-gotten installs.

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