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    Pop up blocking affecting earnings?
    Hi everyone, we've received feedback from some of our affiliates that the release of Windows XP Service Pack 2 a few months ago significantly affected their pop up/pop under campaign earnings due to automatic pop up blocking. I realise that pop ups are not a favourite promotional method for some people, so I hope this thread won't turn into a 'pop up bashing' discussion. Still I'd like to receive some feedback on this please.
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    Find another way to increase revenue WITHOUT pop-ups. You're right, just about everyone hates them. They are right up there with spam email, used car salesman and lawyers as things people hate the most. It's hard to fight a trend and the trend is definately going against this type of advertising.
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    I definately agree mhutch. But if you want something that feels like a pop-up, look at big commercial web site. They use javascript with layers to pop you an ad or a flash flying document over the pages. Maybe they are alternatives.

    I hate it, but almost not if I can press on a Close button or Skip ad.

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    Point taken, guys. I figured that I would receive responses like that. However, while website owners make money off pop ups and merchants receive converting traffic from them, then people will continue to use them as an advertising option, while they can. Looking at the amount of responses I have received so far to this post, it looks like not a lot of affiliates on ABW use popups on their sites, though.
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    I personally, as an affiliate, don't send ads that way.

    As a consumer, I can assure you that I take every step possible to stop their delivery, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

    So I would have to assume that your affiliates are hurting because of this. Unfortunately, I can't provide you statisitacal information to back that up.

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    "I have received so far to this post, it looks like not a lot of affiliates on ABW use popups on their sites, though."

    I don't like to piss my site visitors off, i want them to come back.

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    I agree with TrustNo1. I've always found pop-ups to be annoying and never have considered buying anything in a pop-up. It's a deterrent. People won't come back to sites that annoy them.

    I find the JavaScript routines that slide a message across the screen to be even more annoying.
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    You can add me to the list of affiliates who do not run pop up ads. Personally, I find them annoying, and I've never met anyone who said they weren't irritated by them. I want people to like my site. I want them to remember it in a positive light. I want them to come back. So why would I take the chance of irritating them?

    In your face advertising tactics just annoy people, and make it more difficult to sell to them. Pop ups are almost dinosaurs in my opinion.

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    Personally, I think it depends on which industry an affiliate is in on whether they will use pop ups or not. I know from experience in the casino industry, pop ups are still widely used and quite effective, which I guess means that people going to casino affiliates' sites don't mind them as much as on other sites. I guess that's going a bit off course from my original question, though. Thanks for your feedback.
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    I think for the most part the majority of the pop traffic biz is dead...there are a few segments that still florish...

    gambling
    adult
    biz ops
    travel
    telecom

    to name a few... but with a 20-30% and growing kill rate they are be coming less effective, given that most comsumer hate them and are doing all they can to avoid them...

    Because of this resentment or intrusion as many feel it is... inorder to run effective pop campaigns these campaigns need to be millions and millions of page views... (pops)

    no longer can a small webmaster run a 10,000 or 25,000 ad campaign and expect to get some kind of pop...

    One other thing... the only real use of popup/popunder campaigns has been to build brand idenity, not generate sales... something pop resellers fail to disclose...

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    Good points, Joe. I agree with the segments you mentioned, particularly gambling, as I've been dealing with online gambling affiliates for quite a few years now, amongst others. Everything those affiliates do is purely acquisition related rather than branding. If a particular creative is not generating new players who turn into depositors then that creative will be removed regardless of the potentital branding value to the casino or poker room. So if you still see pop ups on a gambling affiliate's site, then those are most likely still generating players for that casino.
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