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    MasterMike HardwareGeek's Avatar
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    Opera is free now
    No excuses for using IE or FF (which has been said to be more vulnerable than IE as of late)

    Opera is free its fast and no more ads. However you have to pay 30 bucks everytime you email support but then again there are websites like mine that offer free support.

    http://www.opera.com

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    I'll have to check it out again. I used to use it a few years back and it was pretty good, but a bit cumbersome.

    Streaatz

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwareGeek
    No excuses for using IE or FF (which has been said to be more vulnerable than IE as of late)
    Can you post article, i am very sceptical! No spyware in 3 years using Firefox, had 15 in one session using IE, more secure?!...
    "Effective people are not problem-minded; they're opportunity minded. They feed opportunities and starve problems."

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    I was using an earlier version (7.4?) on the FreeBSD platform. Couldn't free up the viewing area by getting rid of the block of links taking up the left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sendmemybill
    Can you post article, i am very sceptical! No spyware in 3 years using Firefox, had 15 in one session using IE, more secure?!...
    This is the article he is refferring to:

    http://news.com.com/Symantec+Mozilla...3-5873273.html
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    Not just that one there are a few more that have poped up this month. Also if you visit secunia.com and look at firefox you will see a lot more vulnerabilities these past few months compared to IE.

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    *cough*

    There is one caveat: Symantec counts only those security flaws that have been confirmed by the vendor. According to security monitoring company Secunia, there are 19 security issues that Microsoft still has to deal with for Internet Explorer, while there are only three for Firefox.

    *cough*

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    Opera is awesome. On my machine it is much faster than Firefox. However, it does not render many websites correctly.

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    I love that browser But nothing compares to Camino.

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    Secunia doesn't confirm the flaws either. They use 3rd party sources and hail them to be true. Just look at 99% of their security warnings and they give credit to someone other than themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwareGeek
    Secunia doesn't confirm the flaws either. They use 3rd party sources and hail them to be true. Just look at 99% of their security warnings and they give credit to someone other than themselves.
    Huh? is this some bizarre attempt to discredit the Secunia data? Symantec also does not discover all the flaws themselves. Do you really only believe an issue exists if MS tells you the issue exists?

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    Just downloaded Opera and its quick and clean. I like it.
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    Symantec; the new disinformation minister.

    Will do anything to keep people using Windows and IE.

    More profit
    "Effective people are not problem-minded; they're opportunity minded. They feed opportunities and starve problems."

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    Quote Originally Posted by chetf
    Huh? is this some bizarre attempt to discredit the Secunia data? Symantec also does not discover all the flaws themselves. Do you really only believe an issue exists if MS tells you the issue exists?
    If a company claims flaws are going unpatched but the maker of the software can't reporduce it, and the company that makes the claim can not tell the maker of the software how to reproduce it. is it really a flaw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwareGeek
    If a company claims flaws are going unpatched but the maker of the software can't reporduce it, and the company that makes the claim can not tell the maker of the software how to reproduce it. is it really a flaw?
    Umm... yeah.. thats the ticket...

    -post edited because I see in your own forums you are being taken to task as well, and being equally ignorant there as well. There is no hope, you hate Firefox and love MS, logic is out with you.

    Chet
    Last edited by chetf; September 21st, 2005 at 04:30 AM.

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