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    Post Legal Publisher Notice from Commission Junction
    Just received this email

    Commission Junction is dedicated to continually increasing the quality of its services and the standards of our network participants. We know the quality of our network directly impacts your success. To this end, Commission Junction has made small changes to its policies and procedures that require slight modification of the Publisher Service Agreement ("PSA").

    The revised PSA that governs your relationship with Commission Junction is effective as of October 20, 2005. It is posted at www.cj.com/psa.jsp for your complete review.

    Pursuant to Section 7 of the PSA, Commission Junction is providing you with 14 days notice of these modifications. Your continued use of the Commission Junction Network and your publisher account, after October 20, 2005, will be deemed as your acceptance of the new PSA and you will be legally bound by its terms. You have the right to terminate your relationship with Commission Junction in the event that you do not agree to the new PSA.

    You are advised to read the new PSA and to seek independent legal advice if you require interpretation regarding any of its provisions, and to assist, if necessary, in determining whether to continue your relationship with Commission Junction prior to the end of the notice period.

    Thank you for your partnership with Commission Junction. We wish you success in the future and look forward to continuing our relationship.


    Regards,

    Tom Vadnais
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    Commission Junction, a ValueClick company
    Can any one please highlight the new terms.
    Thanks,

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    I was coming to post the same thing. At least what clauses were changed.

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    Cj should mention which section have new terms. Its very time consuming to find new terms from such long page.

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    REALLY!!!

    Has anyone gone through it?

    What are they trying to pull, now?
    Comments are opinion unless otherwise noted. Remember, pillage first. Then burn. Half of all people in the world have IQs under 100. You best learn to trust ol' SSanf!

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    Yeah. Let's have an executive summary of changes, please.

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    Are they paying us back all monies stolen due to the lack of quality of their services and the low standards of their network participants?

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    I hate this crap. Credit card companies do the same thing:

    "We've made changes. You figure it out."

    Real nice.

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    Maybe it's this clause
    (a) Business Operations. Each party will make reasonable commercial efforts to keep its Web site operational during normal business hours. However, the parties agree that it is normal to have a certain amount of system downtime and agree not to hold each other or Your Advertisers liable for any of the consequences of such interruptions. CJ may modify the Network Service, or discontinue providing the Network Service, or any portion thereof, at any time.
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    Since it only matters when tracking is down, I suppose it means that if the tracking goes down (as it has 2 times before that I remember) then won't or at least don't have to pay estimated commissions. Of course I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure.

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    Now they are trying to protect themselves from legal actions.

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    What that reads to me is that CJ can be down for days, weeks, or months, and there's not diddly you can do about it. Tough nuggies.

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    "Legal Publisher Notice" (CJ)

    "Legal Entity Notice" (LS)

    I can't wait to start the verification process

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    Instead of improving their service, they are giving Legal notices to Affiliates that they can go down whenever they want, they are trying to play the role of God, and Affiliates Worship them, forget it CJ, Affiliates will leave your network, and you will only have parasites network.

    Anyway it means that CJ have no plans to improve its system.

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    Is that the only change?

    Is the privacy notice that is required for all publisher websites new?

    In terms of the network down time clause, I would not worry about it.

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    OK evil greedy giant corporation CJ...

    You want to be down and when you're down (but wait tracking is never affected) you don't want to be liable ....

    OK CJ once again HAVE your cake and EAT it too

    We're just publishers, we have no say so or anything

    I mean come on guys you know how hard it is to run a solid network with 99.9% uptime

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    I hate this crap. Credit card companies do the same thing:

    "We've made changes. You figure it out."

    Real nice.
    And those leaflets are always in such small print, with legal language. Hate 'em. They're designed so that people won't read them.

    Another CC pet peeve: Due dates, billing dates, and amout due are spread all over the place. Wish they'd get a standard format so that all the important information is in the same place on all of them!

    Andy

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    One point I did notice is that you are not allowed to place links in Blogs anymore...

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    that won't fly in court

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    from their email...
    "We know the quality of our network directly impacts your success"

    they left off the implied part...
    "so we feel the need to cover our ass since we suck so bad and because you'd have a rightful claim in a court of law... we know that... so we're doing something about it... fix it? that's hard... how about we just agree that you can't do anything no matter how bad we get... and it's gonna git worse cuz there just went our last incentive to do something about the issues we've been having... ahhh, we're done here. Night.".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgrcentral
    One point I did notice is that you are not allowed to place links in Blogs anymore...
    As it reads to me, you can't post it in OTHER people's blogs. I could be wrong though.
    You may not place Links to an Advertiser's Web site or Web site content in third party newsgroups, message boards, blogs, unsolicited email and other types of spam, link farms, counters, chatrooms, or guestbooks. Publishers using IRC channels, instant messages or similar Internet resources must designate their program as special requiring manual review and acceptance by the Advertiser.
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    affs can't do things like link in a blog?
    but CJ can whore out our legitimate efforts to their technology friends?

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    the rules are tight \ tightened - that's good - but will CJ actually police affiliates gone bad (and people putting on an affiliate hat to monetize their tricks)...

    since folks like weatherbug can sing the "we've gone straight song" a dozen times over, and CJ starts dancing along each time, will affs (publishers) get the ax or an invite to get a haircut...

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    CJ, now this is a good to read!!!

    "You represent and warrant that You will not engage in pop-up or pop-under advertising using any means involving third party properties and/or services (software)."

    Same type of thing apply for your advertisers?

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    "You must conspicuously post Your privacy policy on Your Web site and otherwise make it available to all Visitors. Your privacy policy must comply with all laws and regulations regarding the privacy of Visitor information, be commercially reasonable, and fully and accurately disclose Your collection and use of Visitor information. You must fully and accurately disclose Your use of third party technology, including CJ's tracking technology, use of cookies and options for discontinuing use of such cookies"

    I'm above board baby, but CJ plants the CJ cookie - you're saying I need to disclose what you do?

    (If you mean my cookies (if I choose to employ them), then be clearer in your contracts please.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuts
    CJ, now this is a good to read!!!

    "You represent and warrant that You will not engage in pop-up or pop-under advertising using any means involving third party properties and/or services (software)."

    Same type of thing apply for your advertisers?
    But if you own a BHO, you are free to pillage any links you want.


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    Is Top Moxie a "third party properties and/or services"?


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