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    ABW Ambassador Andy's Avatar
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    Unhappy New to SAS
    I just signed up for SAS, since it appears I'm going to need to replace my CJ merchants. After looking around, I'm a bit concerned with what I'm seeing. Lots of merchants with low funds. What's that all about? Some of them have been low for over a month.

    Lots of 0.00 7 day and 30 day EPCs. What's THAT all about?

    I know SAS has a good reputation here at ABW, and many people who I respect seem to think highly of SAS, yet I'm a bit concerned at this point.

    Andy

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    Andy...
    you must have gone by the plazan program at shareasale, and not seen our stats...
    i love it when a gateway opens for a free plug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy
    I'm a bit concerned with what I'm seeing. Lots of merchants with low funds. What's that all about? Some of them have been low for over a month.

    Lots of 0.00 7 day and 30 day EPCs. What's THAT all about?

    I know SAS has a good reputation here at ABW, and many people who I respect seem to think highly of SAS, yet I'm a bit concerned at this point.
    Don't be, Andy! There are plenty of merchants with beautiful 7- and 30-day EPCs. Also, many merchants are on auto deposit with SaS. Have a good look around and you'll find some really great merchants to work with.

    As for those with 0.00 7 day EPCs and those that are 'low on funds', ask others about them. There are a lot of SaS affiliates around ABW.

    Looking forward to working with you!

    Geno

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    ABW Ambassador Andy's Avatar
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    @ Neil: You should take every chance you get to plug your program - that's why we're all here!

    @ Geno: Thanks!

    Unfortunately, the site I need to address right now is not one where the target customer is likely to be interested in skin care or collectibles. I need things more targeted to men: cars, sports, etc. And the pickings in those categories at SAS are pretty slim right now. I really don't want to start up with a merchant who has 0.00 EPCs or low funds, and most of them do in those categories at SAS!

    Andy

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    I really don't want to start up with a merchant who has 0.00 EPCs
    i understand what you are saying Andy,
    but we all started with no stats !!!
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    I just signed up for SAS
    Welcome aboard Andy, good descision.

    The clues are there.

    Join Neil, Geno, Adam, and the rest of the active AMs on ABW for starter money maker programs.

    BTW, see my signature too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy
    I need things more targeted to men: cars, sports, etc. And the pickings in those categories at SAS are pretty slim right now. I really don't want to start up with a merchant who has 0.00 EPCs or low funds, and most of them do in those categories at SAS!
    Andy
    I can understand your relunctance to be first.... but you should look at our program. We've got over 60,000 shirts and related apparel items to choose from. Merchant ID 8761. If you tell me more about your specific demographic I can tell you which products will sell well to that demographic.

    We have another program coming that targets younger male audiences with high testosterone drives.... NO it isn't porn either..... Hoping to launch it later in the week.

    Anyway.... nothing from nothing equals nothing. Give folks who have funds on SAS a look. If they have good programs and look like established companies you should give them a shot. I can honestly tell you I've had to make a leap of faith in a few instances that an affiliate was doing something that would make them and us money. Someone else put it really well that different sites pull different traffic. I've seen some that were interesting, and I've seen others that were really not much. However, if the site looked maintained, wasn't "in construction", and was making an effort I'm willing to give them an opportunity.


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    "Lots of merchants with low funds. What's that all about?"

    You can be glad that you get to actually know this at SAS before you decide to work with a merchant. The other place leaves it skeletons in the closet so that every now and then they come out to haunt you.

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    hmmmm halloween?
    Heck, and I thought they were just celebrating Halloween at those places..... of course it is a bit odd that they do it year round.....

    but what else are the fat cat sales rep's to do with the 5K initation charges...throw a party of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyder

    You can be glad that you get to actually know this at SAS before you decide to work with a merchant. The other place leaves it skeletons in the closet so that every now and then they come out to haunt you.
    Yes agree with Heyder there. It's better to realize this first hand.

    Anyway, too bad that your target right now is only for men...or else I would recommend you my program

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntjock
    I can understand your relunctance to be first.... but you should look at our program. We've got over 60,000 shirts and related apparel items to choose from. Merchant ID 8761. If you tell me more about your specific demographic I can tell you which products will sell well to that demographic.

    We have another program coming that targets younger male audiences with high testosterone drives.... NO it isn't porn either..... Hoping to launch it later in the week.

    Anyway.... nothing from nothing equals nothing. Give folks who have funds on SAS a look. If they have good programs and look like established companies you should give them a shot. I can honestly tell you I've had to make a leap of faith in a few instances that an affiliate was doing something that would make them and us money. Someone else put it really well that different sites pull different traffic. I've seen some that were interesting, and I've seen others that were really not much. However, if the site looked maintained, wasn't "in construction", and was making an effort I'm willing to give them an opportunity.

    When plugging your program, you should name it. An affiliate has no way of finding your program as "8761" I tried and can't find you at all.


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    ditto what unclescooter said!

    I just spent 10 minutes trying to search by merchant id.

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    Under "Find/Join New Merchants" --> Click the "View and Search Merchant List" --> Find the "Keyword Search" box about 1/3 down the screen in the center, and type in the merchantID number you are looking for... After entering it should show you the merchant you are looking for.

    Alternatively, when you are viewing the details page of any merchant, you can replace the merchantID in the URL of your browser to view any particular merchant.

    I apologize for this oversight in not having the search enabled by merchantID prior to this post, but it was an easy fix and I hope it helps you find who you're looking for...
    Thanks,

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    Thanks Brian. I found this merchant and they are EXACTLY what I have been looking for in a logo apparel merchant.

    ntjock,
    I am glad I found your program. Is this correct...the larger the sale the smaller the commission?
    This will certainly withdraw any motivation I have to market this to large companies and forces me to focus on smaller orders. A sliding scale from 25% down to 7% on increasing order sizes seems backwards to me.

    A $950 order will pay a $142.50 commission
    A $1200 order will pay a $120.00 commission
    A $2500 order will pay a $175.00 commission, 18.57% more commission on a 163% larger order when compared to a $950 order???
    Is this correct?
    Last edited by UncleScooter; October 12th, 2005 at 02:12 PM. Reason: Sorry to derail the thread, Andy.


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    commission and reality
    oh boy... so many responses.....

    1st. I didn't want to spam so I didn't post too much data. It seems to be a big deal here, so I'm trying to tread lightly.

    2nd. the company is www.txshirts.com

    3rd. I can't receive PM's so don't bother.

    4th I'll address the commission separately in two different posts. That will help

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    Short and skinny on commission.

    1. Yes commission decreases as order size increases. This is because larger orders are generally at smaller margins.

    2. While it is possible for someone to order thousands of t-shirts through our system... when they do it's generally for a group. In fact we've not had a limit on individual pieces and I've had people order 50 or 60 lines in an order. Which is really quite a nasty order to fill from a functional stand point.

    3. I've already had some people get their panties tied up in fancy little orgami shapes about the declining commission thing. I'm gonna throw a dart and say someone's being greedy and it aint me.

    4. I did run the numbers and post some reasonable expectations. But I'll cover the metrics of the logo market in another post in a new thread, cuz this is off topic and getting long.

    5. We originally offered a 11% tier 1 commission with a cap at $2500 in sales. Perhaps maybe we do want you to send simple, no risk, high margin sales to us. Hmm, why not? You'll find people who claim to want to be a Sam's Wholesale club... but when it comes down to it, Chocolate Boutique makes more money selling by the ounce then Sam's does selling by the 5 lb chunk. What I've essentially done is outlined where the profitable orders are and given an incentive to find the.

    6. I suppose we could crack it in reverse and say it's a 7% commission with a bounty on high-profit orders. It just doesn't search well on SAS and half-full shows up before half-empty.

    I hope that helps, i'll pick this up in a more detailed response in a new thread where we can debate the semantics of commission and margin. Should be lots of fun.

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    What's good with SAS is that you are actually dealing with people. There is no corporate loop holes to go around, and you can see people trying to make changes.

    That being said, things can always be improved upon. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am pretty sure in most networks you have to wade through a lot of merchants to find a good one. SAS might have a bit harder interface to use in order search these merchants out.

    I would echo what most other have said, especially since I'm higly biased being in the network and say that the extra effort in finding some good merchants is worth it. You'll probably feel like your voice have a larger impact on this network, then you might find in others.

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