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    Incentive Marketing - what do you know?
    Hey all,

    I was looking around the forums for anything related to "incentive marketing". To my big surprise, I didn't see that many posts about the subject and very few if any directly related to what I was looking for. A more general idea of what you guys think about it, how are sites running such campaigns doing and what's the business model of such sites.

    To give you some info about myself, http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=67156

    Hoping I'll learn something new soon!

    Jad BITAR

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    incentive marketing = teh suxorz

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    Most ABWers stay mute on this subject. They know every incentive marketer is a scumbag tricks for click playa waiting for his/her cut of blackhat practices. Not one of the forces dragging this industry into the sewer didn't start as an incentive affiliate.
    Webmaster's... Mike and Charlie

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    I myself run a couple of those sites based on the incentive marketing (gotta use my own products, no? lol) and I can tell you without using any blackhat or without beeing what our friend here calls it 'teh suxorz', just by launching to the right market and having the right product I made a 5 digits number in the last month from this site alone!

    So, with all respect ElectroPulse, try beeing constructive otherwise I don't really wanna hear about it and if people want to stay mute, well that's up to them. I mean who haven't heard of Gratis Internet? Who on this forum is making more using other sorts of marketing? Please speak out if you want to stay mute on the other subject

    Again, am all ears to hear all you gotta say about it!

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    In my opinion, incentive marketing is pretty new. I have found very little on the subject. I have looked and looked for scripts and programs and have been unable to find much of anything. There are a few things for referral incentives, but nothing on the singular.

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    the only incentive I know is free shipping...

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    When I think of incentives, I think of "put a percentage toward kids college education," Upromise, and attractive incentives for the young crowd, like downloading free smilies and screensavers and search toolbars to help them find "cool stuff."

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    Quote Originally Posted by webworker
    When I think of incentives, I think of "put a percentage toward kids college education," Upromise, and attractive incentives for the young crowd, like downloading free smilies and screensavers and search toolbars to help them find "cool stuff."
    Darn I could combine those with some bleeding heart cause BHO's and stir in some freebee online games, and free prize/lotto sites. Mix in the "get paid for????" type schemes and toss in zangocash.com install scripts with some innocent soft porn movie viewers. Now I'll be rolling in the dough while flipping the bird to you chumps.
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    flipping the bird to you chumps
    Don't let Charlie read that, he might take it the wrong way.

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    Hey everyone!

    Thanks for starting to reply to this post!

    Not to my big surprise, I can see that not too many of you people know about all the money beeing made as we speak in incentive marketing!!!

    It's true that screensavers, free shipping, small rebates, etc. are all forms of incentives, but still not the kind of incentive marketing I am talking about.

    I actually found someone on this board that has a site running on incentive marketing, [removed].

    Honestly, like many over here, I haven't heard of the subject a year ago. But when I started reading about Gratis Internet (#18 in the INC500), looking around the net for all new sites popping out using incentive marketing, operated by teenagers (not to say, kids!) and most surprisingly, doing MONEY!

    Anyhow, I really encourage each and everyone to start looking at this field, I know that many here, would start getting interested if they just knew the real numbers beeing made

    Looking forward to reading what you guys have to say!

    Jad
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    ROLMAO... now the begins, as it always does ,when the incentive bait gets thrown out into the shark filled waters.
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    many here focus on bringing new buyers to our merchants and less on how to get our cookies stamped where ever technologically possible. call it naive or not recognizing the dollar opportunity, but in our views, scams like pay-per-view emails (inboxdollars) are not what our merchants expect of us as partners.

    when we look at your success stories, like gratis internet, we find things like this:
    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=1770
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff131753.htm

    and we see certification authorities revoke (in this case Gratis Internet lost their eTrust cert) certs because of the illegitimate "marketing" activity (that you apparently support and endeavor to pursue):
    http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10463

    and we circle back to our position that marketing means something wholly different to us, than what it does to you.

    welcome to ABestWeb.

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    I don't think anyone is arguing that there's not money to be made in incentive marketing, but the value provided to advertisers is often questionable. Just look at how many merchants don't allow affiliates to incentivize their offers.
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    We have allowed a couple 'incentive based' affiliate marketers onto our network and have found that one actually generated genuine quality leads from his traffic, but the other two actually lost us a couple of advertisers due to the poor quality of the leads they generated and their attempts to fraud us and our advertisers. Needless to say, they didn't get paid. I believe incentivized marketing could be great, if the time is taken to ensure your users do exactly what is required for the lead to be considred good and you don't try to fraud the offers, even though some people may feel incentivizing an offer is fraud itself...not always true. However, due to the actions of only TWO bad marketers, we no longer allow any incentivizeing of our offers. Which is a shame, because I hate it when a few bad seeds ruin it for all the other honest affiliates. As for the clown who started this thread...I can tell right away, he wouldn't be the kind of incentivized marketer I'd ever work with.

    To sum up...incentivized marketing could be potentially great and very lucrative. But could also be damaging to the affiliate marketing world. Poker offers are great to incentivize I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluxAds.com
    We have allowed a couple 'incentive based' affiliate marketers onto our network
    How many is a couple?

    http://www.fluxads.com/publisher/offers.php
    (from your public profile)

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    Ok, let me start by apologizing if the link was in violation of any policy. My mistake I never read those, I always tend to regret after. I'll maybe learn one day that rules are here to be read

    I totally understand and respect the opinions of each and every person here.

    I maybe should add some clarifications:
    I joined this forum not in the intention of advertising any site or anything like that but more to share my 2 cents with other people around here from which I learned some things over the few weeks I have been reading around the forums.

    I do currently run multiple sites bringing in money in different ways: services I offer, incentive marketing, ppc, cpa and cpm. I also, by the nature of my services, get to interact a lot with hundreds of entrepreneurs who run incentive marketing sites and gathering all that information, knowledge or whatever you may call it, I thought wise to start sharing some of it over here and why not, maybe have some people try it and see for themselves.

    Actually, if I wasn't just a 'newbie' on this forum, I would have volunteered to open an 'incentive marketing' section on ABW, but I'll keep it to this topic for now.

    Now am done with the 'little' information I guessed wise to add, I'll answer a couple of the posts I read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donuts
    when we look at your success stories, like gratis internet, we find things like this:
    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=1770
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff131753.htm

    and we see certification authorities revoke (in this case Gratis Internet lost their eTrust cert) certs because of the illegitimate "marketing" activity (that you apparently support and endeavor to pursue):
    http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10463

    I do agree there is many deceptions also by consumers that go for it and fill offers, etc. But look at how many happy users it makes too and at proof galleries they have, testimonials and many forums where thousands of active users from such 'net communities' join a day.
    Like I said earlier on, I do run such sites, and web services sites, and I also, of all people (I know how ethical I am in business) get to read some posts made about me or my company (which ever it is), that are not the ones we like to read, but hey! you can't please everyone and let me ask you, who from you never had a visitor to his site that just tried to screw around, or get things by threatening of posts in forums, etc... If you didn't, well am happy for you that your targeted internet market does not include those frauders and scammers alike!

    Quote Originally Posted by FluxAds.com
    To sum up...incentivized marketing could be potentially great and very lucrative. But could also be damaging to the affiliate marketing world. Poker offers are great to incentivize I feel.

    I am happy to hear that! What do you think of bingo offers? Or those other 'Urban Nutrition' offers?

    Am excited to hear again from you all and have some more people joining this post.. Don't keep your thoughts for yourself! Share them with us here!

    Jad

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    I assume you mean things like "Hit the Monkey and Win an IPOD" or earn money by taking surveys. I have tried this stuff. Never made a penny, but then again I did not try too hard.

    In one program I was promoting, I signed up, just to see what my "customers" would go through. I had to read emails for points. But then,...., my email address slipped out to some more unscrupulous folks who could not resist the temptation of getting it out to the spammers (did they secretly sell a list?). At any rate, in addition to the fairly nice opt-in emails, I started getting more and more of the nasty spam emails. I got out of the program but the spam kept coming. Fortunately, I used a spare email and not my primary one. I then pulled my links.

    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

    I still promote freebies, but my freebies are indeed free which in turn bring visitors to my site. I then make some contextual ad income or the visitor buys a related product they might want. My visitor gets something and so do I - we are all happy.
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    Incent this!


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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleScooter
    Incent this!
    HA HA! now Scooter is "incensed"
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    wow, amazing this guy is trying to 'butter us up'...

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    we all know that the gooey stuff that can block your hearing is called ear wax.
    what's the name of the stuff that gums up your morals?
    i say we call it "jad".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuts
    we all know that the gooey stuff that can block your hearing is called ear wax.
    what's the name of the stuff that gums up your morals?
    i say we call it "jad".
    Sounds like you need to get laid. If it's your high sense of morals that is stopping you from that, maybe gumming them up a bit wouldn't be such a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Incubator


    Sounds like you need to get laid. If it's your high sense of morals that is stopping you from that, maybe gumming them up a bit wouldn't be such a bad idea.
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    We all know what to do about trolls, don't we?

    Either ignore this putz or let's chip in and buy a billy goat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Incubator


    Sounds like you need to get laid. If it's your high sense of morals that is stopping you from that, maybe gumming them up a bit wouldn't be such a bad idea.
    Now that sounds like a real incentive. A more honest approach would be one of those blinking merchant arrow signs saying ... TURN IN HERE to get screwed.
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