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  1. #1
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    WhenU Cleans House ??
    This is new to me - didn't see posted sorry if a dup -
    not sure what they cleaned?

    http://www.adotas.com/2006/02/adware.../#content-main

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    "practically spearheading the online revolution"

    Um... nice pr piece whenu got, not much else of substance.

    Oh there is this...
    "The moment a consumer’s about to buy is an incredibly important advertising opportunity"

    Yep, cleaning up their act. Just another scumbag trying to rename what they are doing to confuse the consumer.

    This seemed odd -

    "When pressed for comment, the usually outspoken figure replied succinctly with, “I have absolutely no comment on any matter pertaining to WhenU.”"

    Ben, it almost sounds like you were threatened if you spoke out on whenu... but maybe thats just the way it reads in this whenu press release.

    Chet

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    Bill Day would declare that adware “dies as a term in the next twelve months.
    Is something burning?
    It's too easy for these thieves to declare there're going to "Clean House and Educate Consumers" They should be held responsible for their actions.

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    "One of WhenU’s newest services, True Relevance, is a platform that Day hopes will assuage privacy concerns and increase consumer value. “True Relevance was rolled out last fall that knows how to extract data out of certain commerce-related web pages better. For example, Priceline, which has been a client for a long time, would run a targeted ad at the moment you’re about to purchase air travel. It would roll up a little ad in the right-hand corner, saying, ‘why don’t you consider Priceline’ and it would put up a form where you could fill up the dates and locations. "

    Roll up an ad on another's travel site? If so, Day doesn't get it.

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    He could personally cleanup up his own act by remembering my advice..."to remove the Adwhore public hairs from his teeth WhenU speak "
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    I don't believe 12 million people are happy to see that crap "It would roll up a little ad in the right-hand corner, saying, ‘why don’t you consider Priceline’
    What about the affiliates promoting competing travel programs?
    WhenU's software is installed on about 12 million PCs. How many of these 12 million installs are legit?
    Bill Day is just an other crook with a different strategy.

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    It's always the same blah, blah, blah with these guys.

    Their version...
    "True Relevance was rolled out last fall that knows how to extract data out of certain commerce-related web pages better. For example, Priceline, which has been a client for a long time, would run a targeted ad at the moment you’re about to purchase air travel."

    Mine...
    Our junkware was renamed last fall because we've managed to make it less obvious how much we'll slow down your computer and watch your every move and add patches and trigger what we like to call 'events' (pay no attention to that term, it's techie talk) and also add new advertising and new code. We watch where you browse and we pay extra attention to when, how and where you shop online. We collect information about your every move, send it back to our servers and think up ways to monetize it. We encrypt the communications so it's hard for outsiders to know what we're up to. And we're able to change things in real time so our chances of escaping via the classic "glitch" excuse remains as high as it ever has been. We sell your information to hundreds of parties and have no realisitic way to police what happens to it once we sell it, heck, we're not even sure who they all are since we know those parties resell the information. We gag them with non-disclosures and like you, they accept our terms, and then it's off to the races. But hey you opted in voluntarily and the fine print pretty much said we'd do this. Just because you can't quite conceive of how aggressively we'd interpret the vagueness of our policies doesn't mean you've got any real privacy rights or legitmate recourse. And let's face it, the FTC claims they're beating spam, bahahaa, we're so far ahead of those goobers they'll never catch up with exactly what we're doing or who we're working with! We do get the most money for selling your desktop space during the times you're entering your credit card information and buying something, after all, our advertsing customers and others (hmmm...) want someone who's just about ready to buy. We're experts at extracting data out of commerce-related web pages and we're working on modeling so that we can further violate your imagined privacy at all the other times when you're browsing and not yet buying. We call it Behavioral Marketing when we're interviewed, but honestly, around the office, we call it BM. Bahaha! We watch your kids when they're on your home computer too, their buying influences appeal to many of our advertisiers and it's nearly impossible for you to detect what we're watching and when, so we feel pretty secure about that whole situation too. One really great thing we did for Priceline, which has been one of our client of ours for a while, albeit worried from time to time (a few court cases got their scruples up and they also know how far we could go, if we really wanted to, since we monitor and could also control 12 million consumer's computers and their communication's streams (okay, it's more than that, but who's counting besides us)). For Priceline, we interupted computer owners at the moment they were about to purchase air travel from someone besides Priceline - a pretty cool trick! Man, it's a great thing to be able to interfere with commerce this way - if we did it via brick and mortar methods, we'd be hauled off to jail for commerce interference and trespassing - so we also feel great about how the internet today let's us stick our income-producing stuff right into any pending deal or sale you may be thinking about - heck we get paid even if only 4% of you fall for it. And those we can't persuade to change at the last second, we get to watch, in detail. It continues to amaze us how much money this information is worth to others, we're doing very well financially thank you. We've got some cool stuff coming too! We're working on ways for you to think that the pages and articles you're reading on the internet have chosen to support the people that pay us (even though that's not the case) cuz we're able to inject content, not just ads, into everything you see and hear while browsing. Once we do that, and get our stuff to display within what you're viewing, we won't have to open a new window or pop any ads. We're calling this the end of "adware". Sure, there'll still be lots of ads, more than ever as a matter of fact, but since we tuck them into the page you're on, we think you won't be able to tell the difference. Since we already know that you can't read fine print, we're very sure this is going to work out well too. And in exchange for access to your privacy and your internet bandwidth and your computer's disk space and processing time, we offer a continuous stream of propanganda and a pretty full inbox as well.

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    Good interpretation Donuts. So the other group of Point Of Sale attack dogs don't feel slighted, imagine the backdoor opened to WhenU by the networks for pushing coupons & forced cookies at the POS. www.pricebandit.com

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