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    I am waiting for payment from them from a merchant that sent in their payment to linkshare on October 18th. Is this normal?? I can't deal with non-paying affiliate programs if it is. Please let me know. Do they have a phone number?

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    Jada,

    1-888-SHARE-89

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    JadaKiss,

    Some of the merchants payments run a couple of months behind. An example is I use to use Prize Games. They sent in a payment I think October 3rd but that was for their July leads. So November payment will go towards August pymnt and so on. It sucks that they are that far behind but once the checks start rolling they come in every month. FWIW I have always been paid by Linkshares Merchants so far.

    They do have live help on the site hidden somewhere. I think it's under help.

    [ 10-31-2001: Message edited by: Packy ]

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    Good Luck... :rolleyes:

    Packy--I'd say Lucky, but whether 4 months late for a payment is lucky is debatable! Reading that makes me glad I turned down a "hot-hot offer" to promote another LS merchant recently...

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    Leader, turn down what you want. Your the one loosing money by not taking the chances. Your $1000.00 a month could be who knows, maybe $5000.00 a month with the right linkshare merchant. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon38.gif> <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon38.gif>

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    $5k doesn't do me any good sitting on my screen...but not in my bank account!

    Anyway, I'm sure that the right CJ merchant, or other network that pays up when they're supposed to (or at least not 4 months later), or even a private deal can make that kind of $$$.

    It's just a matter of finding the right ones...

    BTW, I've got enough Chancy promotions going already! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Packy,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>They do have live help on the site hidden somewhere. I think it's under help.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    ROTFLMAO - Last time I used that (to ask why my stats were 100,000 imps and 20,000 clicks OFF!) They said I should email support directly and make recommendations when they said the "REAL" numbers are in the sales activity report. Once I heard "REAL" numbers then I RAN and QUICK! BTW - After 18 emails still no resolution.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Your the one loosing money by not taking the chances<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Thant is exactly what it is a "REAL" Risk! Why waste your visitors with something that you have to take a chance with ... I'll send them to CJ anyday!

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    Haiko, time to wake up friend. Although CJ is ok, they are nowheres near what they use to be. CJ screwed me out of over $500.00 in July and August. So far they are the only ones who have ripped me off for any large amt of money. They allow the merchants to not pay up what they owe and feel they do not have to share any information about the merchant being behind in payments with them. At least the other company's are trying to give us some insight as to who is paying and when. Onresponse still pays for leads whether they are paid or not like cj use to.

    I have asked CJ several times to let us know who is in the red with them and they never took notice. They do not care. I use to be Pro CJ. Now I am just an affiliate of CJ's. I am not pro any company anymore. All of them have problems just like the rest but to say a company is better than another I find hard to justify. I have had more reversals with CJ than any other company. It is too easy for a merchant to take away without proof.

    As for getting lucky with merchants Leader. Thats not it at all. It's a matter of going through many merchants before finding one that pays off just like I am sure you do. BUt the difference is, that you get ripped off by a merchant and shut your eyes too many good merchants that could be lining your pocket. To each their own I guess.


    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>BTW, I've got enough Chancy promotions going already! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That I can relate to Leader, I think they are all chancy right now!

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    Linkshare,

    I read somewhere (I think from their email) that Linkshare's main office is located in one of the Twin Tower (or close to it), so they have to move to the backup location.
    So, that may be the reason why your check is not sent yet.

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    XO,

    Didn't have a chance to welcome you before [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/welcome.gif>

    I remember reading that Linkshare did relocate also.

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    The front of Snare's site said there had been a "construction accident" and that's what forced them to move. They weren't in one of the Towers! They moved only a couple of weeks ago, from what I had read on CJU.

    I think it was when that brick wall collapsed...

    Packy--it wasn't A merchant. At one time I had about 15 LS merchants--and they were a kennel-full of dogs! PhoneyFree is only the worst of the lot. The Mysterious Non-Conversion Trick, the Sudden Disappearance, Checks Lost, Wait to Pay Until the Lawsuit Threats Come In and When-EVER are just a few of the things I encountered.

    It seems to me that you have closed YOUR eyes to what equals a GOOD merchant--that is, one that both converts and forks out the commission when they are supposed to!

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    Oh my goodness. By the looks of it I may never get my money - I am going to give them one more month to pay. I don't see a check, they get dropped so fast there fricken heads won't have time to spend. I don't have time for BS merchants - Foreal!!! Don't mess with my money, my kids or my man. LOL!!! Cause you'll see a pretty girl get real ugly. LOL!! I made $620 from them in October which is only a small percentage of my overall commissions for this month. So if they don't pay I haven't lost much but still. I earned that money - I deserve to receive it. If they can't pay, I can't stay. That's the bottom line. Screw them trying to screw me. I'm doing GREAT on CJ - but I thought I'd give Linkshare a try too. So far they're doing nothing but pissin me off.

    Do they take longer to process your first check? What about BeFree?

    I'm on the phone with Linkshare now.

    Okay - the lady was VERY nice - she said my payment is being processed for September and October and that it should go out within the next few days. So I'll keep you all posted.

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    "Do they take longer to process your first check? What about BeFree?~Jada"

    From what it sounds like from those who actually have gotten checks, it goes like this at LS:

    You earn some money and keep on doing it, month after month.

    About 5 (*(&) months after you should have gotten the first check, it comes in.

    You don't get any others from there in the meantime, either!

    The next month, the check for your second month's earnings show up. But even though you earned it in Month 2, you get it in Month 6!

    Same in the future--month 3's check comes in month 7, etc.

    That looks real steady and apparantly some people think it's peachy, but ALL THE CHECKS ARE REALLY 4-5 MONTHS LATE! They keep coming every month if you keep promoting, but none of those checks are on time or remotely near it.

    Kind of like if you got behind on a utility and then just started paying the oldest bills first, month after month! The utility would see a check coming in every month--BUT they'd all be later than tarnation!

    Not having the patience to see if "late" would become "Never", I stay away from them like the Plague. With the kind of delays they have, by the time it's CRYSTAL CLEAR that a place isn't going to pay, the debt is old and moldy--which makes it harder to collect!

    Also remember that the above scenario is for merchants that are SUPPOSED TO pay Monthly! Add another 2 months to the time for those Quarterly leeches...

    As for actually seeing a check, I saw a few--one after threatening to sue the merchant's arse (PhoneyFree, that still didn't send the last check--but at least I pried ONE out of 'em), one after constantly bugging another merchant with e-mails, and one from a program that had closed that shocked me (6 months later) by paying at all (Webstakes--at least they paid up!).

    Then there's the programs that drew clicks like a MAGNET and claimed 0% CR (Yah, RIGHT!), and one that said it didn't get clicks at all. Considering the fact that their page jacked up my GoTo fees quite a bit, and the page was made in the same way as my other ones, I give that a big YAH RIGHT, too!

    When it comes to BeFree, they have more defenders than Snare, but plenty have ended up empty-handed. It seems to be quite a mixed bag over there!

    I don't have enough experience with BF to make any generalized comments about them--only 2 programs. One just closed :rolleyes:

    I haven't heard of a specific First Check Delay at either network.

    So how'd your phone conversation with them go? (Did they improve their spin or do they still cause total lack of confidence like they used to?)

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    Well that's a start!

    Definitely tell us if you get it!!!

    "September and October"--? They processed the October payments in ONE DAY??? (Yah right...)

    Well keep us updated--It'd knock me right off my chair if that OCTOBER payment came in a "few days"--ie, even faster that CJ!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Some of the merchants payments run a couple of months behind. An example is I use to use Prize Games. They sent in a payment I think October 3rd but that was for their July leads. So November payment will go towards August pymnt and so on. It sucks that they are that far behind but once the checks start rolling they come in every month. FWIW I have always been paid by Linkshares Merchants so far. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Leader, above was an example of a slower paying merchant. SO careful when you say it will take 4-5 months to receive a check.

    Another example of one of my better merchants there is they paid me for July's payment on August 28th. I received the payment around the 3rd of September. Just a little over a month. .<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon7.gif>

    Jada, give them a chance and see how it goes. Keep an eye on the merchants payment history. As for a check being sent out for your October balance, I owuld be surprised if it is that fast but it is posible to receive payments from some in a little over a month. They all pay different there. At least Linkshare lets you see how the merchants pay unlike CJ's. Look for the merchants with the red stars. They are the best bet merchants.

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    Hey Leader,

    Were you referring to Linskshare or CommissionJunction about always being behind by a month or two on checks?

    It seems like CJ is way behind. You might think you are getting paid for last month, but it is really sales from 90 days ago, as they have to wait for the last-minute reversals and merchants deactivating (temporarily of course).

    Fire Lex Sisney! (immediately, if not sooner)

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    I beg to disagree if I may. I have NEVER received a CJ check 1 or 2 months late. AS a matter a fact, my check for September month was mailed on the 20th of October which was early. I think CJ is the most reliable out of them all.

    So far I am only promoting 2 merchants with linkshare that supposedly have pretty high ratings. So well see. But CJ is where my money comes from. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    Oh, and the person whom I spoke to at linkshare said alot of affiliates don't get paid because they are involved in fradulent activity and try to scam the network. Do you believe that one? How much do these people get paid to lie? Umm, just curious.

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    Jada, remember that CJ actually had to eliminate pay-per-click programs because they could not control the fraud even with a dedicated fraud-buster team. Fraud is a big problem.

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    Fir Lex Sisney immediately (if not sooner). m'kay?

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    "Another example of one of my better merchants there is they paid me for July's payment on August 28th. I received the payment around the 3rd of September. Just a little over a month.~Patrick"

    Hey, a Linksharius payuppus!!! Well then, A LOT of Linkshare merchants pay when H is well frozen, but not all! Unfortunately, the particular specimen of payuppus will probably stay un-named for competitive reasons... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

    Jimbo2002, I meant that LinksNare merchants (usually) pay like molasses. I don't just "think" I'm getting paid for last month. The direct deposits have come in on the 23rd for sales made in the preceeding month like clockwork (I do the math and match up the figures), except for one month when something got galled up with the bank. In that instance, a check was sent 2 weeks later.

    If you're talking about the extensions that sometimes happen, a 1-month extension is nothing compared to the eternal delays I've experienced at Snare. As for reversals, seems that Snare LOOKS LIKE it hardly has any--because the merchants just cull out those transactions before sending in their batches, so they're INVISIBLE. Invisible, though, isn't the same as nonexistant...

    Oh, BTW--do NOT fire Lex Sisney!

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    You people really crack me up [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

    You cannot even see what CJ did. Come to think of it Lex is one of the smartest people in the affiliate game.

    They dangled some nice stuff in front of you, then did an about face. There are hardly any differences among the networks now.

    And by the way, if you used Linkshare in the past year Leader you would know that reversals are not invisible. I don't know if Lex just blinded you or if this is purposeful deception or what is going on.

    Fire Lex Sisney? Nah, too many people are willing to roll over and take whatever he schemes next.

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    Hi everyone,
    I've been wondering about linkshare, sent them a heap of visitors last month with no sales!
    I just received an email from a linkshare merchant who said they detected an issue with linkshare and determinded there was a connection problem with linkshare!
    but that my sales have been recorded and they are on to fixing the problem.
    Nice of them...but still makes you wonder how may more merchants don't contact publishers to advise of problems. :eek:

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    Some reversals there are visible, but it was widely stated on CJU, and not disputed, that Snare it using batched transactions. This matches what I noticed at Snare (actually it was a bit over a year ago)--that the stats would update once a day, with a few unexplainable exceptions thrown in.

    Batching sux no matter where it is, precisely because it leaves a freight train-sized opening for merchants to just get rid of a few transactions here 'n there...and NO WAY is it some coincidence that there were no "invalid credit cards" over at Snare--and NO WAY were there REALLY not any invalid credit cards used/sold out items/cancellations out of hundreds of transactions, either!!! Just one returned product. Surrreee...No invisible reversals over there at ALL!


    This comment needs responding to:

    >They dangled some nice stuff in front of you,

    Yeah, it's called MONEY...

    >then did an about face.

    No they didn't!!! The money is still coming in just fine, and when it's supposed to, too!

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    Leader,

    With all due respect I feel your posts regarding Linkshare vs CJ reflect a deep emotionally-charged bias stemming from some unfathomable injustice.

    But if you could just get beyond that you could eliminate what is hindering a clear assessment of where CJ is going now.

    CJ IS GOING WHERE "SNARE" WAS!!!!!

    Please, as a prominant and respected poster open your eyes and take notice BEFORE it is too late.

    That is what happened at "SNARE", right? You ignored all the signs and allofasudden it was too late.

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!

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