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    ABW Founder Haiko de Poel, Jr.'s Avatar
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    January 18th, 2005
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    Today I went to parent teacher conferences at my girlfriends daughter's elementary school [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Her old science teacher is now the computer teacher ... and ummmmmm ... LOL

    I asked him how she was doing <IMG src=> (proud), he further elaborated that at the end of the year the students (5th Graders) would have their own pages. Prior to the end of his proclamation I, interjected ... know java [by the end of the year] ? He pathetically laughed as he knew java was waaaaaay over his head much less teaching it! He proceeded to ask if I wanted to see the schools site? (It was going to [hopefully] be uploaded tonight and "its' 50 pages!"). I smirked and said sure ... LOL I wanted to see what the teacher who said don't click the ad [because you'll be haunted for life ads] did. After biting my cheeks from laughing at his "Kid in a candy store attitude" I almost fell on the floor laughing after seeing the "site" ... It sucked almost as bad as some of mine [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    I guess ..... the lesson of the story is ..... there are many "want to be" "experts" out there ... and it just goes to show .... we "all" have much to learn!

    PS. I want to thank all of you for all that I have learned from you!

    [ 11-15-2001: Message edited by: Haiko ]

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    Master of Design AlexBet's Avatar
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    [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] There is a lot of those "know all" people walking around unfortunately, or luckily for us who are a little bit better then them.

    We have a saying in my country that goes something like this "A man learns throughout all of his life". And yes, this is so true. You can NEVER know everything, there is always someone that know better than you. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    pph Expert! Gordon's Avatar
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> We have a saying in my country that goes something like this "A man learns throughout all of his life". And yes, this is so true. You can NEVER know everything, there is always someone that know better than you<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Obviously you do not know me [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    January 17th, 2005
    Well you never know.....

    Last time I took a computer class and the professor said he knew JAVA very well so he's going to use it to teach the class....after 4 weeks teaching it...he dropped it and said..."This Java stuffs is not going to be on the test...." [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
    And then the next semester...another prof want to teach it too...and I asked him if he already knew Java...and he said...nope...but he's going to learn it during Christmas time...(it was on October something when I asked) I just laughed my self....

    At that time Java was the buzz word in the geek's I guess lots of people want to be called "experts" in it.

    Now, I think.....
    because people wants to be called "experts" ... I can generate my marketing strategy to called them "experts" to make them happy ... and "SELL" them something without them even knowing it ... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    Having done the grad school trip and been in the college teaching milieu on and off for decades...everyone who has been thru the last three years of trying and even partially succeeding without any venture capital to waste at making money online should get a REAL PH'd in internet marketing.

    Never have so many known so little about so much and still seek to be called 'experts.'

    I am seriously thinking about joining up with an accedited ph'd granting college to institute a 'fast track' Ph'd program.

    You PASS if you have a computer, can create a your own webpage and make an audited NET profit of $300 for three consectuive months and you only can use $100 of start-up capital to setup your business.

    I am so tired of all the idiots who think they know how to do it? Who can't do it at least for a time with $100 million in startup funds. Well, a whole lot of dot.bombs.


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    Content $ Queen Ebudae's Avatar
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    January 18th, 2005
    This is funny: when my boys went into the 8th grade they HAD to take a basic computer class, even though I told them they allready knew the basics. So when I go to meet the teacher, she tells me she knows nothing about the PC but she thinks it will be ok cuz she will just follow the lesson plan!! lol, they spent the first 2 weeks learning how to hold the mouse!!! :eek: I am NOT joking, they really did!!! You would think this teacher would have at least tried to learn before the class started.

    I admittedly don't know much at all about JAVA. Everything I know about the PC and making web pages is self taught. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    I have also learned a lot from everyone here and I thank you all!!

    Vicki [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    January 18th, 2005
    All of this reminds me of my computer class in high school (BASIC programming)--the teacher was really an ALGEBRA teacher (he sucked at that, too--a kid who had a tutor explained things to him!). He spent 2 days "teaching" about the printer and a week and a half on flow charts (I have never yet written another flow chart!).

    There was a program going around that he didn't like and he said he'd wipe out our floppy disks if he found it. So we renamed the program to its INITIALS and it took him 6 months to realize that was the same thing!!! Har har... (I like to write, so I had rewritten out all the offensive parts of this BASIC [language] RPG, so when he finally caught on I got to keep mine anyway.)

    He would also leave the room for extended periods, allowing the playing of many games and funnier yet, allowing us to TEST Epson's ad--which currently featured a printer being dropped from 8 feet...put it like this, they can take about 5 of those drops--or at least they could back then!

    The worst (best, at the time) part was that he knew so little BASIC code that you could use any old method to generate the results and it passed. Like if you were supposed to use a complex formula to generate the answer to a math problem (say, 2300), you could just put PRINT: "2300" in the code (I think I remember that code right) and it would pass. We'd just give the problem to the math whiz, who'd kick out the right answer, and we were 9/10ths of the way there...

    So much for that trip down memory lane! Seems all that has changed is the programming language in question!

    Fred--"You PASS if you have a computer, can create a your own webpage and make an audited NET profit of $300 for three consecutive months and you only can use $100 of start-up capital to setup your business.~Professor Fred"

    Easy-Joe! So when are you opening the college/signing the deal, and most importantly, what are you going to do to make that degree impressive? Accreditation by who? Harvard or Yale affiliation? Something similar? You know, make it GOOOOD...there's already plenty of Diploma Mill U's--but a CRYING NEED for a "REAL" PhD that could be gained that way!

    But what do you need a computer for? You CAN do that from the library's computer, you know!

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    January 17th, 2005
    Well, you could use the library computer but
    I know of no library open at 3 AM.

    I think it should be mandatory to have access to a 'puter more or less 24/7 so you can make any necessary adjustments to your page, keyword listings, etc quickly.

    Having to wait for the library to open could cost you money in lost sales or giving away free traffic to deadbeat merchants.

    Merchants always seem to change commissions for the worst or drop stuff late Friday evening or on the weekend. having your own 'puter let's you deal with both good and bad in a very timely manner.

    For example, many times the new ads for Websponsors pop up on Sunday when they update stuff. You can get a jump on getting the info out if you have your own 'puter.

    There really is a need for a REAL degree in internet marketing...Harvard or Yale would require a bunch of supurflous BS and surely would not give any credit for actual previous experience.

    Diploma mills that are accredited are an option. And I don't think having a degree from the better ones whould be looked down upon in the business world, because it's accredited and it would be unique.

    But you can bet the traditional academia would bust a gasket.

    Here's what's interesting - if you have a PH'D from any accredited school, diploma mill or otherwise, it counts when applying for higher education jobs.

    In the real world, elite University Ph'd's are more often than not at a disadvantage in applying for positions because those doing the hiring are both jealous of their degree, and look at them as real competition for their positions in the future.

    Academics are about the most insecure people on the planet.

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    ABW Ambassador Joey's Avatar
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    Reminds me of the time I had to show my Internet Programming teacher how to make a standard link. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]


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