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    Question Feedback on FluxAds?
    Any ABW members who are also affiliates of FluxAds, please give some feedback on what you like, and what we should improve on or get more of.

    Thanks!


    ps. Go Padres!
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    We gave our site and interface a face-lift, so if you see something you don't like. Please PM me.
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    More Education
    would like to see some school/education related offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarebox
    would like to see some school/education related offers.

    Us too! lol. We've tested quite a few on our network, and we have yet to find too many good one's that actually convert and payout well enough that it would be worth our affilaites inventory and efforts. But we are always on the search, so keep your eye out, I'm sure we'll find some more here again and get them up.
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    spywarenuker.com or nuker, or lets infect people with adware... or has this been removed since people are getting in trouble for it?

    curious, you have a download.com claim on the front, then when i search on download.com, i can't find the software... am I missing something?

    Is there a reason the scammie sites connected to flux ads register their domain names under a personal name and not your corporate name?

    Can you list every single site you guys own, or you know... own in theory?

    Thanks

    Chet

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    Quote Originally Posted by chetf
    spywarenuker.com or nuker, or lets infect people with adware... or has this been removed since people are getting in trouble for it?

    curious, you have a download.com claim on the front, then when i search on download.com, i can't find the software... am I missing something?

    Is there a reason the scammie sites connected to flux ads register their domain names under a personal name and not your corporate name?

    Can you list every single site you guys own, or you know... own in theory?

    Thanks

    Chet

    As for nuker...please refer to this thread:
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=70150

    Which 'sacmmie' sites are you referring to? We do not disguise any sites we own and operate. All associated with FluxAds are registered under our corporate name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluxAds.com
    As for nuker...please refer to this thread:
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=70150

    Which 'sacmmie' sites are you referring to? We do not disguise any sites we own and operate. All associated with FluxAds are registered under our corporate name.
    Why do you have a quote from download.com but it is not on download.com? Were they confused as well?

    And more bs from a craptastic cpa network
    fluxads.com
    http://whois.domaintools.com/fluxads.com
    nuker.com
    http://whois.domaintools.com/nuker.com

    One corporate, one personal.

    When a network lies, there is a reason. What's yours?

    Chet

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    Chet,

    I will try to answer some of the questions you asked in this thread.

    First, I am going to address the 'lets infect people with adware' statement.

    I assume that you found the discussion in this thread informative: http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=70150

    If you have not had time to review my post in the thread I will quote a retraction made by McAfee:

    McAfee, Inc. wishes to correct its previous classification of TrekEight, LLC's "SpyWare Nuker" program as adware. The results of an internal investigation by McAfee indicate that prior versions of McAfee's anti-virus and computer security software products inadvertently identified "SpyWare Nuker" as adware, and a "potentially unwanted application." In fact, tests confirm "SpyWare Nuker" does not function as adware, or evidence any virus or Trojan horse behavior.
    Our software has been scrutinized and cleared by one of the industry leaders.

    I will move on to the CNet quote issue.

    The fact is that our software is not available for download through download.com at the moment. We are discussing the CNet issue with a CNet representative right now. I cannot disclose the details of that discussion. Another fact is that the quote available on nuker.com is part of the official review of our SpywareNuker software ver. 3.3.13.1, so have no fear, the quote is accurate and verifiable.

    Third, the issue of non-identical whois info for the nuker.com and fluxads.com domains and other Internet properties.

    None of our properties is registered through a proxy and the whois info is available for all of our properties. The discrepancy between fluxads.com and nuker.com whois info is an error and I thank you for bringing that to my attention. The internal investigation uncovered the same problem with some other domains that have been in our possession since the early days of the company.

    I can assure you that we would be smart enough not to use the name of the company president as a contact person if we wanted to make the domain ownership covert.

    I hope the above answers the questions that you might have about our company. If there is anything else that you might want to know feel free to give us a call or visit us at our corporate headquarters.

    Regards,

    Bojan Gajic
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    Blah blah blahbalby blah bs.

    Look! We changed our spots and we have enough affiliates to hide under!

    http://www.webhelper4u.com/nontransponders/trekdata/
    http://camtech2000.net/Newsletters/a...are_tactic.htm
    hhmmm... who owned that domain again? Oh wait.. but now...

    Another company owned by Trek8, Blue Haven Media, is a distributor of software considered to be adware and/or spyware, including BargainBuddy, CommonName, WhenU.com, N-Case, ShopNav, IGetNet, Sidestep, WurldMedia/ebates, MySearch/MyWay, and Gigatech SuperBar. Blue Haven bundles these products into their own software and then distributes them to computer users.

    Trek8 was founded by James Leasure, formerly an employee of Lion's Pride Enterprises or a subsidiary there.


    But all the denying in the other thread, he has nothing to do with lion's pride... oh no! You see when the domain was owned by lion's pride it was bad.... but when little jimmy got it - IT GOT ALL FIXED LIKE!!! (search on lion's pride Enterprises for a real wake up call).

    http://www.jimloy.com/complain/imn.htm
    which goes with the bottom of this
    http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5157358.html

    Blah blah blahbalby blah

    But let me get this straight. You sued symantec, but yet they still list you? Whatever happened to that lawsuit?

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20040803-4067.html
    http://securityresponse.symantec.com...warenuker.html

    See kids, keep the target moving, never stay still so they can nail you down... always be on to the next blah blab blarbalyblah blah.

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    - Almost as exciting as the anticipation of X-Men 3!
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    Chat,

    most of the issues you have brought up in your latest post have been discussed here: http://www.nuker.com/about/fact_and_fiction/.

    Again, to keep the focus, I can point out the already quoted retraction from McAfee, which speaks for itself.

    I am not sure if you read the articles that you linked to. If you did you might have overseen this part in the one from the CNet network:
    "A CNET News.com test of Spyware Nuker last week found that the software did detect some common advertising components. In addition, the installation did not appear to include any bundled advertising software along with it. "

    As for the Symantec lawsuit, I am not in a position to discuss any specifics. If that is one issue that needs to be clarified before you decide to take an unbiased look and accept that there is no spoon we can arrange a conference call with an authorized person.

    Again, if you are in a position to visit us at our headquarters we would set aside enough time to answer all of the company-related questions that you might have.

    Regards,

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    No thanks, i have had run ins with your type before. You speak in these almost truths, it was shown that the earlier downloads did contain fun packages, you yanked them, one part of your company did one thing, the other - well what happened to that? You have nothing to do with lion's pride, you have a direct connection to lion's pride... slipping and a sliding...

    you are playing slight of hand with ethics, that doesn't mean you are partially ethical, quite the opposite.

    So which part of the UPS store do you call your headquarters? The counter, where you do your bidness? Do they let you use the employee bathroom?

    I love stuff like this
    http://www.twistedhumor.com/press.shtml

    Uh oh! Whose name is on that press release? What kind of software is that?

    Guess where this was covered before? Why right here!

    Here is another fun one where they try and talk a member to install adware on their customer's computers for all of 7cents!
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=51910

    So before you sign up for fluxads.com, ask yourself - who are you really signing up with? Don't trust me, read these articles, see the names, connect the dots... Because a leopard can't change its stripes... (they keep changing, so you know...)

    Chet

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    Chet,

    it was not shown that "the earlier downloads did contain fun packages".

    Our software has been scrutinized by several industry experts and it has been cleared. McAfee has issued a retraction that you have probably seen already, and that was not the only company to recognize that they became victims of a campaign. Several companies made the same mistake and were big enough to recognize that mistake. We appreciate their willingness to work with us and we hope that the incident helped them to further improve the processes they have in place.

    If you have asked for it, I would have given you the address of the corporate headquarters. It is not the contact address from the whois info, but it is part of the public record and it is available online. The address in the whois is a valid address and a legitimate way to contact the owner of the domains.

    Other issues that you have brought up have been discussed in the past and you have seen the response on our 'facts and fiction' page.

    Note that I have tried to answer the questions that you might have and I have offered you a conference call with people authorized to answer questions that I have no authorization to answer. I have also offered you to spend some time here. I truly believe that would be beneficial for you and for us and these offers stay.

    However, I cannot engage in an 'I know your type' type of discussion. At no point I accused you of being a biased slanderer. I do think that you have some prejudices, but I do not think that you are malicious.

    Finally, I am sure that you will understand if I find the current 'A asks -> B answers ->A asks something else' scheme inefficient and if I am unable to dedicate much of my time to this discussion in the future.


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    Bojan,you are being... well... your fact and fiction page let's take a look.

    Fiction: SpywareNuker is owned by a company that installs spyware.

    FACT: Also not true. You may have read that TrekEight, LLC is the owner of Blue Haven Media, which has been accused of distributing spyware. In fact, TrekEight is not the owner of Blue Haven. When TrekEight was formed in October of 2002, it acquired several domains and properties. Blue Haven Media was one of these properties, but it was subsequently sold to a private corporation.


    But here is a conversation someone from abw had with bluehavemedia/trekblue/trek8.
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=51910

    Notice mike@trekblue.com calls the bluehaven software "our product" and "When you install the it, it will download our software, plus a few extra"

    And so mike@trekblue.com has this as his description:
    Michael Coats
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    BlueHavenMedia.com

    In case you think the abw member travelled back in time to edit that post, there is also this...
    http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemac.../msg00016.html

    (and others).

    Guess you never told poor michael coats that you are not connected with bluehavenmedia.com and that you guys don't deal with adware... maybe if you guys have a time machine, you can travel back in time and fix that fact/fiction?

    Until then, Bojan, I think everyone here can see the game you are playing.

    Chet

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    Chet,

    the 'fact and fiction' page says:
    "Blue Haven Media was one of these properties, but it was subsequently sold to a private corporation."

    From E. Howes' note on SWN (summer 2004): "...TrekBlue/TrekData has taken steps to clarify the history of its relationship with BlueHaven, which is no longer a TrekBlue/TrekData company."

    If you want to learn more about the history of that relationship I would be glad to arrange a conference call with a subject matter expert.

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    Bojan Gajic
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    Damn, even in your own post you now admit it was a trekblue company while you are trying to deny it was a trekblue company. And it seemingly had that relationship while it was promoting adware.

    THAT WAS YOU!!!!!

    Again, anyone here can see the email exchange:
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=51910

    Wacky, wacky web you are weaving there.

    Chet

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    Bojan, according to your logic, I can rob you and you can't claim I robbed you because - I am not robbing you this very second.

    Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You and Jonathan are playing a game here, and I think every ABW member can see through it.

    I keep responding because I can't believe the level you will sink with your responses, it is a fascinating study in people like you.

    Chet

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    Chet,

    I admitted nothing, I pasted sentence from an independent and reliable source when you disputed the content of the 'Fact and fiction' page.

    'Fact and fiction' page says: "TrekEight is not the owner of Blue Haven. When TrekEight was formed in October of 2002, it acquired several domains and properties. Blue Haven Media was one of these properties, but it was subsequently sold to a private corporation."

    The way I read the above is 'Blue Haven Media' was acquired by TrekEight and it was subsequently sold. It does not say 'it was never owned by TrekEight'.

    There are plenty of online resources that discuss the long-ended relationship in more detail and if you ask for it I would be happy to point out those resources for you.

    Please note that you have moved your focus away from SpywareNuker. My knowledge about the newly introduced topics is not as thorough, but I will do my best to put you in touch with a subject matter expert if/when needed.

    Regards,

    Bojan Gajic
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    Quote Originally Posted by bojan.gajic
    Our software has been scrutinized by several industry experts and it has been cleared.
    Please, which specific software of yours, what are the expert's names and it has been "cleared" of what?

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    Lets bring it back to spywarenuker then...

    Did bluehavemedia ever distribute spywarenuker or at least a similar version of the software with a similar name?

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    Donuts,

    I am glad you asked that question.

    Software is SpywareNuker, the one mentioned in the post #5.
    Various products and individuals used to flag our software as something malicious. The actual names and descriptions used vary. Unfortunately, the trend was ignored by the company staff until late 2003 / early 2004.

    We have contacted several individual and companies during the late 2003 and 2004. As a result of the improved communication the software was removed from the list of 'rogue anti-spyware' products maintained by Mr. Eric L. Howes. Mr. Roger Karlsson of Kephyr/Spyware Blaster did the same. McAfee removed SpywareNuker from their list and issued a retraction. AdAware, SpySweeper and SpywareGuide.com removed SpywareNuker from their databases, too.

    I hope this answers your question.

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    I will try to bring it back to SpywareNuker.

    SpywareNuker has never included or promoted or distributed anything related to Blue Haven Media. SpywareNuker has never included or promoted or distributed anything other than SpywareNuker. Note that StartUp Manager as an optional component is included with SpywareNuker XT and is considered a part of the anti-spyware suite.

    As I said, my knowledge of Blue Haven Media operation is very limited and I can put you in touch with a subject matter expert.

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    You have an expert on who you aren't? Wow.

    But of course you didn't answer my question. You flipped it for a denial of what spywarenuker is, not what bluehave is/was and what they did with similar products, what they promoted when they were owned by you.... but we can see that other thread can't we?

    Spinning, spinning, spinning...

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    Chet,

    you said 'Lets bring it back to spywarenuker then...' and then you asked me about Blue Haven Media after I said that I am not the subject matter expert. Again, my knowledge of the Blue Haven Media operation is very limited. I apologize for not having all the answers, but I can offer you a conference call with someone who is more knowledgeable.

    Provided that all parties agree to that, or it would not be legal, you can record the conversation and post the transcript.

    I got involved in the thread because you introduced SpywareNuker as a topic and then mis-interpreted the lack of response in another off-topic post. I feel that I answered all of the SpywareNuker related questions to the best of my abilities. I am sorry if you find the answers incomplete, but I have provided you with venues to more complete answers.


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