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    New domain gets PR8
    I recently bought a domain name (for argument's sake I'll call it sitename.com) which was previously used but dormant for many month. I finally put up the site and, to my surprise, it came out as PR8.

    I checked the different Google datacentres (http://www.pageranktool.net/), all but one show PR8, one shows PR0 - that is for sitename.com (without the www.).

    If I check for www. sitename.com all but one show PR1, the remainder shows PR0. This is a result I would expect.

    When I check backlinks in Google I get 0 for www. sitename.com and some 4200 for sitename.com - but all are completely unrelated, their content is not even remotely associated with my site. After searching thru some of these sites there is no mention of sitename.com at all.

    I don't want to post the actual URL publicly, but if any senior ABWer would like to see this for yourself pls PM me. I'd be interested to learn how this happens... I'm sure it's just some fluke and will go away soon, but it's still odd.

    Until then, anybody want to buy a link from a PR8 page?
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    Interesting.. was the domain name recently expired?

    I think that the displayed PageRank is often buggy. I have a popular site that's only PR5 at present, but some some mysterious reason one of the internal pages was displaying as PR7. I couldn't find a reason for it, and judging by the SERPs for that page it certainly wasn't behaving like a PR7 page. Very peculiar. It stayed that way for a few months before dropping back to PR5.
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    Dynamoo,

    I've sent you a PM with the actual site, maybe you can figure something out. The domain was an expired one and was previously used, but the backlinks are in no relation whatsoever.

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    Want a link from a PR10? http://pr10.darkseoteam.com/



    It can be faked.. If none of the backlinks are related and they don't exist anymore anyway, the real (not toolbar representation) PR of the page is likely nil. It probably gave you a nice shock though!

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    Whoa, this is quite cool. They seemed to have hijacked Googles very own page rank for their own site. This puts the Google algo in a completely new perspective. Of course such capabilities are (unfortunately) beyond me.

    Thanks to TheHoff I read up on Googlewashing, and was in the process led to a site that claims to be able to spot a fake page rank called SEOlogs. Mine came up clean, though - not sure what this means though.
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    Did you check the backlinks on Yahoo? Occasionally it does a passable job of putting the most important backlinks at the top of the list. You may find your mysterious benefactor.

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    Yes PageRank has been screwy for a couple of weeks now...

    One of my new domains was a 3/10 the first day I uploaded..
    Now it fluctuates from 0/10 -- 4/10
    Something is up with Google PageRank..

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    I've seen the same flucuations recently as AddHandler describes.. also, I have noticed it primarily on new sites (within a year old) and not so much on est. legacy sites.

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    I wonder if those sites run paid text ad links(or some other linking scheme) and were formerly displaying ad links to your site and Google just hasn't updated them yet??
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    Quote Originally Posted by suzigeek
    I wonder if those sites run paid text ad links(or some other linking scheme) and were formerly displaying ad links to your site and Google just hasn't updated them yet??
    This would be possible if it were a few links, and if the site was previously active. However, I get over 4500 links back, and the site was dormant for a couple of years according to the Wayback Machine (archive.org).

    I wonder if it may have somthing to do with the fact that Namesecure put up their standard placeholder page while the domain name was pending.
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    The PR of 8 might not be a fake, although there are numerous ways to hijack PR. I won't get into the methods here, because it's also a good way to get your site banned if you get caught and I don't like to encourage risky behavior.

    When I check backlinks in Google I get 0 for www.sitename.com and some 4200 for sitename.com - but all are completely unrelated, their content is not even remotely associated with my site. After searching thru some of these sites there is no mention of sitename.com at all.
    It appear that there were 4200 backinks for sitename.com. Perhaps, as suzigeek pointed out, the former domain owner was buying sitewide links or advertising links from the sites that show up as backlinks. Whatever was done, the link focus was placed on sitename.com and not on www.sitename.com. There is a difference between the two as far a Google is concerned. That's why you should always standardize with one version of the domain name and never, ever vary from this.

    If the backlinks no longer exist, the PR should eventually drop, but I've seen that sometimes take several months. You may be able to transfer the PR to the www version of the domain if you do a 301 redirect in the .htaccess file to force a standardization of the domain. This type of redirect is commonly used when a site is optimized for search engines.

    You can find info about the here:
    Setting up a 301 Permanent Redirect for Apache Servers

    You can use this same method to standardize your current URL on the www.sitename.com version of the domain. Just use your current domain name in place of both olddomainname and newdomainname in the example. If it is set up properly, when you enter http://sitename.com in a browser address bar, you should see the address change to http://www.sitename.com. The 301 status code that is sent causes the search engines to change any versions of the URL in their databases. A 301 redirect passes PR from the old version of the domain to the new one.

    You might also want to check the Wayback Machine to see if they recorded a copy of the previous site. That will give you a good idea as to what the domain was used for in the past.

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