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    Don't know how or what it is , but I just lost IE, Netmedic, NAV, and a few other programs .

    My 10 year old son was on this computer earlier - I think I may be dead very soon.

    Pray for me if you can , I'm having a very bad week so far , I think I'll just go outside and get struck by lightning now [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

    Lisa

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    Jeeez Lisa, that sucks. Did he maybe just delete the Icons to the recycle bin??? ARe they gone from the start menu too. I hope thats all he did. If so just restore them. Sorry if thats not it. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon36.gif>

    It does get better!! Don't ask me when though. Keep your head up.

    [ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: Packy ]

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    I got hit by a reply from someone on my mailing list. Good ol' Norton stopped it - well,, it quarentened(sp? - duh on my spelling) the file. After it got stopped, I still got prompted to download the attachment. I clicked "cancel". I'll have to say my Norton has saved me a couple of times.

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    Basically, it looks like most of my .exe files are gone, I don't know where to begin to fix this, I just download Norton again, but it said there was an older version detected before installation, and I need to remove the old version .

    Went to remove the older version of Norton , but I couldn't even do that, because some other .exe. file was not found that was needed to uninstall Norton, I am F'ked now , can't do much but sit around here , allthough I can still get around the internet , after downloading IE again .

    Anyone have any ideas what I may have here and how to fix this ?
    Going to try to get another AV program somewhere ,

    Lisa

    [ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: Lisa ]

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    I had something similar happen to me before. I had to rename my OS, and install it again. I then deleted the old one. The other dreaded option is to reformat the ol' hard drive. It may not be a virus, instead it could be a trojan. I had it happen to me once. The trojan made it so I couldn't open any of my programs/windows. I had to reformat. I think the trojan rewrote some file, and therefore it was just as well to go ahead and reformat.

    Sorry this happened to you. This is the reason why I have stated in the past that there should be severe punishment for those that write these viruses/trojans - and I mean severe. it is no different, IMO, than someone entering your home and being destructive to your property. I would shoot the person that entered my home, which narrows down what I would like to do to people who make these destructive files/programs (hacking included).

    [ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: Big Chuck ]

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    Reformatting is a better option than installing over the old OS,anyway. This is the first time I've gotten away with not reformating within a year -- kept any and all games off of my machine. Of course, the family thinks this is unfair. Soon, soon, I'll buy a new system and give them this one to destroy with their games [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] .

    Take a deep breath, Lisa. Hug your kids and enjoy a candy cane. Bad weeks also pass!

    virtual hugs and hot chocolate,
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    Lisa,

    As you explained, it probably is a virus cause it attacks the .exe files. What I would suggest is this:

    I hope you have a clean boot disk, clean meaning made prior to the virus. DO NOT make a boot disk now as the virus is most likely memory resident and it will infect the boot disk too. I don't know what OS you have installed but if you use WIN2000 you can also boot from the CD. You just have to change the option "boot device" to CDROM in your BIOS. The name of the option may vary from BIOS to BIOS, but you will get it. DO NOT change other options in the BIOS if you don't know what you're doing.

    After you boot from a clean disk, format your hard disk and then reinstall everything. I know that this may sound too hard, but it is the only way of getting rid of it safely, so you know it won't return back. Sorry. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

    Note: Reinstalling your OS will NOT help, cause the virus probably infected ALL .exe files meaning also files that don't belong to Windows. This is useless and it won't solve the problem.

    [ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: AlexBet ]

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    Patrick, Chuck - Thanks for your sympathy , you guys always have a kind word to say.


    Webmistress... A candy cane ?
    LOL, That is sweet, but I need a stiff drink after this week , you would die laughing if I told you about the rotten stinken luck I had going to the bank drive through this morning ...

    I guess it is my week to suffer with bad luck . Now, if I could only kill Osama Bin Laden with that candy cane you mentioned, then I would be able to release this weeks frustrations using a candy cane [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


    AlexBet - That's some tricky stuff I don't want to mess with , as long as the computer doesn't bug out on me again, and I can run what I need to run, I'll just let the virus lay where ever it is sleeping if it's even there at all .


    Anyhoo...
    I'm getting things sort of back to normal now, don't think it was a virus after all , just a very strange bug in one or more of the programs I was running - I hope, because no virus was found with the newest version of Norton.

    Most of my program files were somehow moved from it's normal path to a root folder named QuickenW , and all of the programs I thought were gone were in subfolders under that . I did lose my CUTE HTML , and IE though, and can't find any remains of them as of yet , so I am still without an HTML editor, no biggie.

    Almost as if Norton killed and deleted those programs thinking they were a virus somehow. How the heck everything else went to this QuickenW folder is beyond me .

    The weird thing is , last night, I opened up and was using my CUTE HTML to add that span tag from another post mentioned here in my headings to a few of the pages to prevent that "yellow" scumware virus , and when I hit IE to view the page in the browser as I always do after making any changes, that is when I first heard that kiss of death "crunch" sound , windows underneath the one I could see popped up, and dissapeared ,and I knew I was in for some trouble .

    Probably just a big coincidence, but that span tag to prevent the scumware, may be a lot more powerfull than it's given credit for when certain other programs are running at the same time.

    If it's NOT a coincidence, then Windows98, IE5 , that span code in your document, while NortonAV is running, Net Medic and Cute HTML are all going at the sme time , are not a good mix - I wouldn't suggest it to anyone just to be safe [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Lucky for me, my files are intact, just gotta find that darn unlock code for my CUTE HTML so I can download it again , and I'm back in business again .


    Lisa

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    Sounds like a senerio from a few of my clients who caught a few viruses.

    namely W32.Sircam.worm and W95.MTX see http://securityresponse.symantic.com for the super duper fix & remove tools. These 2 effect hte running any .exe file and attach the moment you call one of these executables up to launch a program. JUST Visiting some sites with a full blown case of the codeRed windows NT server virus can even attach itself just by browsing page views. Maybe your scumware remover tool was a trojan put out by Surf+ and commission terrorists at TopText....never did or ever will promote anything with the word FREE in it on the net. FREE means beware in netspeak. Come to think of it ..my own free advice falls in the same category.


    [ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: EcomCity.com ]

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    Lisa, as far as Cute's unlock code all you have to do is email them and they will resend your code to you.

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    Make sure you back up important stuffs.
    It may be the hard drive's cluster that's becoming bad. And when the PC boots, it will try to find the shortcut. If it can't find the shortcut, it will try to find the closest one. If that's happen, then you probably need to replace your hard drive.

    just another possible scenario.

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    Sheeshhhh Lisa - at first I thought you were literally dying of a virus foreal. You scared me for a sec. I'm glad it's the computer and not you - computers can be fixed - people can't. Well wait that's not all true either. But you know what I mean.

    [ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: JadaKiss ]

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