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    Newbie TheHoff's Avatar
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    Angry Impossibly hard to join Performics
    I sent in my application. Like a good affiliate, I listed 3 or 4 fully functioning websites with significant traffic in the "WEBSITES" section of my application. At the top of the app, under my email address, I listed my company website-- which of course does not sell anything or even do anything.

    Now I've gone through two email rounds with their support trying to get approved because my company website is "under construction."

    Are you SERIOUS?

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    Just list your most marketable website and ignore your company website. You should be able to get in that way. I didn't have any problems joining Performics, but it can be difficult to join some of their key merchants. Once you get in it'd be a good idea to change your listed website for each application to ensure the merchant sees the site you want to market with. I got rejected once because I listed the wrong site and there is no way to re-apply unless you email their support.

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    Use the site description field to include other urls
    In the affiliate application (or on your profile - if you're already in the network-http://www.connectcommerce.com/partner/edit_profile.html ) there is a free form text field called site description. You may need to expand the Web Site Information section to see this field.

    Please include your other urls in this field. We will be adding a feature to capture other urls down the road, but because some affiliates have so many, we haven't finished figuring out how the UI will look for this yet.

    Larry Adams
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    I gave them my most beautiful web site and they declined me. I called and was told they decline a lot of affiliates and when they call they instantly approve them.
    A filter of sorts I suppose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleScooter
    I gave them my most beautiful web site and they declined me. I called and was told they decline a lot of affiliates and when they call they instantly approve them.
    A filter of sorts I suppose.
    That's a lousy kind of filter. Calling a network would be the last thing that'd cross my mind in that situation! First of all, it's supposed to be an ONLINE company. Second of all, I would have no reason to suspect that there was any calling needed--due to the first reason.

    Also it wouldn't really "filter" anything important. It's not like crooks don't have phones. And people who like to do calling, may or may not know jack about how to make sites/sell stuff--it's a totally unrelated trait.

    If that's their standard policy it is crazy.

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    I just applied and was rejected today. What a beautiful way to start a relationship. You spend some time and fill out an application giving you SSN and your bank info for what? An auto response with 10 possible reasons for the rejection:
    • Your site does not exist.
    • Your site exist but is too religious.
    • Your site exists but has too much porn.
    • Your site was under constriction.
    • You publish lies about people.
    • You love people better than animals.
    • You failed to have a foreknowledge of the site we wanted to see.


    Do I really wanted to be accepted by people with an idiot response like this. Ops thats "hate-oriented speech". Now I see why the rejection.


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    I have the opposite problem I cant quit them. I havent had an active link for 2 years with them
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    Comfortably Numb John Powell's Avatar
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    They responded to my email and I had a typo in my URL. I'm now approved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bumpaw
    They responded to my email and I had a typo in my URL. I'm now approved.
    Glad you figured out the problem. Don't you hate it when it's you and not them?
    leeann


    Shoppers determine what has value and they like coupons. Stop manipulating who set the cookie just because you do not like coupon and promotional sites.

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    One of our sites (family oriented) was rejected by Performics as well, although the reasons were not as ludicrous as the ones bumpaw's listed. The only thing on the site that was applicable to the rejection was the fact we have links for online gaming and casinos. My reply to them? NONE. I'm not wasing time calling or writing anyone that doesn't want to be on one of our sites. We get too many requests from merchants asking to join us to waste time with ones that don't.
    To be honest, with all of the other affiliate programs available, I could care less if Performics likes our sites or not. Using about 5 or 6 different programs, we have access to literally thousands of merchants and products, so for Performics, and merchants that have denied us due to content, I look at it as their loss and another merchants gain. If Performics wants to be another 'our way or the highway' program, like another program we all know and don't love any longer, then more power to them. Merchants advertising on other sites will simply get more exposure and sales from affiliate webmasters that realize we have too many options to be bogged down by one or two 'middlemen' outfits that think they own the web.

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    My site was rejected by Performics, when I was just learning what aff marketing was.

    I have to admit that my site looked really ugly then.

    But then I built the site built a few sections and made it look a little complete
    and then re-applied and they approved.

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    "The only thing on the site that was applicable to the rejection was the fact we have links for online gaming and casinos."

    Well it is one of the reasons they give why your site might be rejected: "Gambling"

    Which I guess includes linking to it too.

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    is worldwinner considered gambling?
    In worldwinner's FAQ they said it's not gambling but skills based.
    But they are listed under the gambling section in DMOZ

    I had WW links on my site when I applied to performics,

    but my site was really a 1 page site with just links and some text - I thought they might have rejected it for that reason.

    may be they rejected it because there was WW on it.

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    I didn't mean to raise a gambling issue. The point I was trying to make was that the merchants at Performics are the ones that will suffer because of the Performics rejections. We have had a lot of merchants tell us they are not allowed to be on a site that contains links to online gaming or gambling, but that is the merchants option. For Performics to make that decision instead of the merchant themselves is an issue that would make me look for another program if I were a merchant. Many programs leave it up to the merchant to make the approval call, which is how it should be. We have merchants on 'regular' programs that have approved all of our sites, and have even requested being promoted on an adult site (XXX) as well as a family site.
    The other point I was trying to make was that there are too many programs available for any one program to make it difficult to join.
    With the current issues with CJ, right now is the time other programs should be doing everything they can to attract merchants and affiliates, and making it easy to join, not harder. It is very difficult for many merchants to change or join programs (I have had them ask me for recomedations for other programs due to this fact when we let them know we were dropping CJ and would not be using Performics).
    Again, my point is that we pay for and manage the sites, and it should be up to each merchant to decide if they want to be promoted on them, not the affiliate programs.

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    ABW Ambassador best123's Avatar
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    But then again... merchants might want to be on Performics becuase *it* filters affiliates for them.

    This way merchants don't have to do the work of checking each website to make sure it's good to have their links on it.

    The rejection from performics is what made me build a better website.

    Rejections are good, they teach you something.

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    Feel free to contact me directly about getting approved for our network. I manage the team that screens new applicants. I can review your site, determine why it was declined and approve you. We do manually screen all applicants to ensure a quality network for our clients.

    Thank you,

    Jamie Ross
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    Quote Originally Posted by perfjamie
    Feel free to contact me directly about getting approved for our network. I manage the team that screens new applicants. I can review your site, determine why it was declined and approve you. We do manually screen all applicants to ensure a quality network for our clients.

    Thank you,

    Jamie Ross
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    Since we are not alllowed to post url's in here. I'll email you our site information.

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