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    Wearing T-shirts emblazoned with Putin's face, thousands gathered near the Kremlin and spoke of their love for the president. Mr Putin later received the organisers of the rally in the Kremlin.

    Russian liberals fear that the group is the embodiment of persistent attempts by senior Kremlin officials to set up a new Soviet-style cult of personality around the president: nationalism thinly veiled as patriotism is a hallmark of Walking Together.

    The group demands strict loyalty and discipline from its members, who are handed a long checklist on joining which includes commands to "read at least six Russian classics a year, whether you enjoy them or not, and visit the site of a battle where the Russians were victorious".

    Mr Yakimenko's latest attempt to indoctrinate members, aged mainly between 14 and 30, is a proposal to "purify Russian literature". Modern "liberal" books, which depict the difficulties of modern Russian life, have been damned by Walking Together.

    The group has in turn published thousands of copies of a book of stories recounting the Red Army's "glorious victories" during the Second World War. These books were offered free in exchange for "corrupting" works.

    Walking Together is secretly sponsored by two companies with close Kremlin ties as well as Moscow city council.

    Its outgoings are high: members are divided into groups of five called "red stars", each led by a "foreman" who receives a free pager and £30 for his services. Each of his five "soldiers" receives £1 as well as free T-Shirts.

    Members are encouraged to recruit others with promises of rank and glory reminiscent of Communist indoctrination methods. "Once you have a red star, try to persuade another 50 to join.

    The complete story... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...7/wrus27.xml&s Sheet=/news/2002/01/27/ixworld.html

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    Leader,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
    Haiko's original comment was:
    "or is that pickle up your a*s so far up it blinds you?"

    He didn't say to stick it there--that clearly assumes that a pickle was ALREADY there!
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Can't Haiko take care of himself, he has to have his women fight his battles?

    I know what you are going to say Haiko, WTF this and WTF that, so save your breath.

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    John,

    Good night!

    Haiko

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    Haiko,

    Take Care and don't let the bed bugs bite.

    John

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    Tribune,

    >he has to have his women fight his battles?

    Would you mind telling me what gender has to do with anything, these days?

    Far as I can tell its about as relevant as 'race', and just as polite to mention it.


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    Icicle,

    You are right and I am wrong.

    John

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    John,

    It seems to me that you are just mad because you didn't read the part of Haiko's post I was referring to--and I let you know it!

    And if you can't come up with a better retort than a gender-based crack which shows your age, you might as well go to bed!

    [Hm! I see you made a post while I was typing. Well, I'll hold fire for now until I see your next post, then.]

    [ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: Leader ]

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    I reckon it is always a mistake to let your bloke out of the kitchen or the bedroom.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And if you can't come up with a better retort than a gender-based crack which shows your age
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    I told Icicle I was wrong, so shut the f**k up.

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    I have no qualms about it--I will delete any more posts of that nature.

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    Man, its past *someones* bedtime. Quit stressing will ya Tribune? You are ill. Quit putting out all the psychic* nasties, and like, chill. It doesn't take a Wiccan to know this ones gonna rebound.


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    *As in psychological.

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    Quote from Haiko..


    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>what are you that dumb that you can't see that or is that pickle up your a*s so far up it blinds you?[<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Leader, I didn't see you delete the above post. He said a*s, I said f**k just as he and I typed it.

    [I do not tolerate that kind of insults! Leader!]

    [ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: Leader ]

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    Leader,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I do not tolerate that kind of insults! Leader<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You have done your share of insulting, so I don't care what you tolerate. [...]

    [ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: Quiet777 ]

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    The problem is, YOU are merely power-HUNGRY! Apparantly you are jealous of the fact that you don't run or moderate this board! Like Haiko said, you don't like it--get your own board!

    But to the topic--
    I said I would delete that type of post. It's not the swearing I care about.

    It's the insults!!

    I left the post to which I am responding, but I will indeed "go ahead and delete" further insults, they serve no purpose and I am not going to leave them just so you can continue to insult me and vandalize this board with your flames!

    Also you might as well get over your sexism (all your insults contained sexist remarks/verbiage), that era is DEAD!

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    Also, whether you CARE what I tolerate is inconsequential!!! What counts is whether I DO tolerate it, which I won't!

    BTW, the only time I insult is when I am RETURNING FIRE!

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    Leader,

    You are so full of Sheet.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
    all your insults contained sexist remarks/verbiage
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    [that was a creative way to try to sneak an insult in! --Leader]

    [ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: Leader ]

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    Come on, I haven't got all night!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Apparantly you are jealous of the fact that you don't run or moderate this board! Like Haiko said, you don't like it--get your own board!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I'm not jealous of anything, period! I don't need to get a board, I've got this one. I was invited here and I will say what I like. I will feed the crap you put out right back at you.

    FREE BIG CHUCK

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tribune:
    ...I've got this one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Wanna keep it?

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    Come on John, for pity's sake let it go. It's gone far enough and your doing no one any favors. If you think that ABW is too much of a facist state then why stick around?

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    Rik,

    I mean you no ill will
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
    If you think that ABW is too much of a facist state then why stick around?
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    I stick around because I want to and the mods will have to kick me off or bring big chuck back.

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    Enough please
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    Tribune, I had nothing to do with the suspension of Big Chuck!! When I logged on today (Sunday) it had already happened!

    I don't really know what got into Big Chuck, but I do agree w/Haiko a "cooling-off" period is in order... I'm sure once Chuck thinks about it he will understand Haiko's motivation for removing the gun reference and the other remark which was removed. (Or at least be able to tolerate it better!)

    Big Chuck's anger-induced responses are what got him suspended--when he calms down I'm sure Haiko will let him come back on.

    ...

    [ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: Quiet777 ]

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    John, I would like to comment on your post about Russia. I have a friend there, been friends since before the fall. I have watched very closely the goings on there for many years.

    I can tell you, this board holds no resemblance whatsoever.

    Please, take hold of your senses. This degrading talk to others is only bringing you down.

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    Leader,

    Thanks for your reply.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>If getting Big Chuck unbanned is what you are really after, talk to Haiko because he has control of the Unban button!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Haiko knows how I feel, but thanks anyway.

    Night, night,
    John

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