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    I am wanting to start an affiliate business on the web. As I am a complete beginner...it appeals to me to use the sitebuildit service. The price at the moment is through the roof. I was wondering if other options exist. (Assuming you are familiar with site build it)I have done some pre-work, Identifying potential affiliate partners, Article ideas, etc. Any other suggestions are welcome.
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    bghtn,

    Welcome! <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/welcome.gif>

    Just for clarification ... when you say "start an affiliate business" does this mean be an affiliate? Or offering a program to affiliates as a Merchant? There are MANY programs for either, which many can discuss once your goal is clarified.

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    Thanks Haiko. To clarify: I want to start a web site and offer deals through sites such as Amazon. So..if I understand correctly..this would make me an affiliate?
    This is opposed to me having a product and offering it to other affiliates to sell and paying them a commission. Am I on the right track?
    Thanks again for your response. :confused:

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    bghtn,

    Yep ... you'd be an affiliate [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    We have an intro to affiliate marketing
    here and you can find links to join the major companies here.

    This is a good start ... then put up links and send targeted traffic to the merchants, optimize your keywords, get listed, and fine tune your copy, post your site for a review, improve it and viola ... Ka-Ching!

    Haiko

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    Welcome bghtn,


    IMO the sitebuildit service is a waste of money. I think nothing more than a free copy of frontpage express and a membership at cj.com is all you need to be in business.

    I think it's best to join a free hosting service and set up a site or two so you can test the waters then move up from there.

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    Thanks for the replies so far. What attracts me to the sitebuildit service is not so much the sitebuilding tool in and of itself. It is more of the instruction on "how to build a successful affiliate site full of content" ANDHow to then go on and optimize listings in the search engines as well as search engine submissions. Do you have any ideas or products to help with this? And also I am looking for success stories of affiliates..can anyone direct me to some resources for that?
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    Hi!

    First thing - a successful affiliate site isn't always full of content. Or not the kind of content most people mean.

    There are two main ways of selling things:

    1) Get an undecided person to buy your product. You do this by selling them the 'sizzle' not the 'steak'!

    2) Wait till someone has decided they want to buy a certain product and searches for it - then get it in front of them, with no distractions (that is no 'content') as fast as possible and before their credit card changes its mind.

    If you want to do it mostly the first way, do a search for all Leader's messages and read them.

    If you want to do it mostly the second way go here:
    http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/

    and type in some things you might like to sell and find out how exactly people phrase their searches. IMO if you can get the hang of that, you will save lots of wasted effort. (If merchants could get the hang of that they wouldn't pay us).

    In reality sites will use a combination of the two approaches, mostly.

    For inspirational stories do a search for 'Jadakiss' [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Don't ever spend weeks working on one particular merchant unless they have a good track record with people here, and for optimizing things for search engines - download the trial version of Web Position Gold and *only* use the page critic. Don't use it to check your position on search engines.

    By the time you understand the page critic feature you'll know quite enough about optimization!

    If you're stuck with anything - ask us. We're free. And for search engine submission - well, I wouldn't. Search engines like to find things by themselves.

    We're having Google problems at the moment, but by the time you are ready it will probably all be sorted out. If people link to you, the search engine robot will follow that link and find your site all by itself. Some people like to submit pages, though.


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    Just to clarify, I do both 1. and 2. from Icicle's post.

    I position my pages so people who already want an item are the ones that'll find it.

    Then I convince them to buy it from MyMerchant.com with lots of sizzle!

    Basically the most undecided thing about my viewers is which merchant they want to buy an item off of. For example, I'm not convincing them to buy bread--just what KIND of bread to buy! Getting someone to buy spaghetti instead may be fun, but it's not where the real money is...

    Definitely start with the Suggestion Tool or Wordtracker no matter what your style is. The best product in the world won't sell worth beans if nobody's looking for it!!! I've saved a lot of time by always checking the demand factor before promoting things. And sometimes, an unexpected gem will pop up as well...

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    Leader, I think the reason I always get your methods wrong is that I don't know how to make things sizzle, at all. In contrast your methods seem the height of pure salespersonship, and I'm trying to make things as simple as possible for a newbie.

    I'll often pinch copy off the merchant site though and take out 1) anything that makes me vomit 2) gramatical errors and interruptions to flow - but thats it beyond sprinkling it with actual search phrases.

    I recall Jared (from Crucial memory) saying its about tweaking copy and testing it and how me who can't do that has to 'make it up in volume' (heh - I've certainly done that).

    Inspired by this I just spend a month wondering how to persuade someone who already decided they wanted some nice shiny new memory that they wanted it more than they already did and there may be some extra reason to by it from me (other than that my page was in front of them right now and there was free shipping). I mean what is going to motivate them more than the thought of the memory? They surely know what its for and what it does, already?

    I though some nice seductive pictures of it might help. All shiny and green, and erm - well thats it really!

    I notice on the sign up page Crucial has some memory chips arranged in a nice appealing fan shape.

    "Here. Buy this. Its arranged nicely."

    Which is a bit boring, but seems all Crucial could think up.

    I recall me and some friends helping a (ahem) masseuse to design a classified ad once. She was being charged per word, so we wanted something short. We couldn't do better than "Get it here!" and "Want some?"

    I kinda use that approach too. It seems to work well for memory or anything with a technical spec.


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    [ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Icicle ]

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    "I recall me and some friends helping a (ahem) masseuse to design a classified ad once. She was being charged per word, so we wanted something short. We couldn't do better than "Get it here!" and "Want some?" "

    I know I need a new video game when I start writing spin for things like THAT, but...

    "Sensual Massage. You KNOW you want it... Don't wait any longer--call 1-800-HOT-GIRL now!"

    Of course I just picked that phone # out of the air.

    That's one of the few things that shouldn't take much spinning, unless it went on a page full of similar ads! Then it's competition like anything else...

    As for the computer memory, I hate it when I have to come up with something for that dull-as-rocks stuff. But after a few tweaks, I manage... at least I did for printer ink which is another boring item. I really prefer to promote more interesting stuff but sometimes the potential $$$ from a dull item is too much to ignore!

    [ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: Leader ]

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    >That's one of the few things that shouldn't take much spinning, unless it went on a page full of similar ads! Then it's competition like anything else...

    True, but there are so many potential customers!

    If the advertiser goes over the top with sexy stuff the customers like that, if she is discrete they think she is very respectable and they like that too, and if she is mean - they pay extra!

    Its an interesting business.


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    Hi
    Just wondering why you don't suggest looking at page placements with webposition. Is there a penalty for doing so?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Icicle:
    Hi!

    Don't ever spend weeks working on one particular merchant unless they have a good track record with people here, and for optimizing things for search engines - download the trial version of Web Position Gold and *only* use the page critic. Don't use it to check your position on search engines.


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    Leader writes pretty good spin...and how she does 'sales' makes good money if you work at it.

    The real trick is to test a bunch of merchants and find ones that convert well, then promote the heck out of them.

    How you do that is the big question. Ebay was the king of merchants in 2000 and the first half of 2001. Now they suck.

    So you have to keep adding and subtracting.

    You could also follow the JADA Path. Create a site, make some money. Make another one, and then another and another. Pretty soon you have 52 sites making you something every month - if it's just $1 per day it's
    $1560 in your pocket every month. If it's $5 per day you pocket $7800 per month.

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    There is such helpful info here for all us "Newbies"! Thanks! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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