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    Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed an increase in spam, so last night I went on a rampage, blocking, complaining, reporting these spam merchants.
    One had an attachment, scanned and it was infected with sircam, so I sent the person off an abrasive note, this morning I received an email from a poor woman saying, I'm sorry I don't even know who you are, please help my computer is spitting out stuff, help me what do I do!
    I helped her, poor woman was beside herself!

    Another was addressed, Mail Administrator, undeliverable mail, so I opened it, and it's porn!
    Has anyone else noticed an increase?

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    I have noticed an increase in misrepresentation! I keep getting emails from proclaimmedia trying to get me to sign up for an ids cell offer.

    They even have the nerve to tell me to click on their affiliate link to sign up.

    It is really quite insulting, like, HELLO, what the hell do you people take me for?

    Then they say, sign-up then email me back so I can increase your payout to 45.00

    HA HA HA

    Go away!


    ps- it came from:[affiliates@proclaimmedia.com]

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    I've been getting html emails that look like a just like any certain well know website but after checking carefully I find all the links are affiliate.

    Example would be Iwon or whatever.com.

    I think it's wrong to make it look like it came from the actual site.

    I also get tons of crap from alkfjoit@yahoo.com

    I'm sick of yahoo allowing tons of spammers to sign up for yahoo email accounts.

    I'm ready to sue yahoo, why don't they drop their email service.

    Email IMHO should only be provide by your internet provider not just any website unless you are the owner of that site.

    :mad:

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    Since late September or early October it seems that my junk mail has increased 5 to 10 times

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    I've noticed an amazing increase in the amount of spam since late last year. it actually came to the point I was about ready to cancel every email pop account I own. Then, a friend pointed me in the direction of this nifty little tool called MailWasher. This thing rocks.. has a few minor quirks, but does its job very well.

    Get this, it allows you to preview your headers for any POP account you have, and bounce it right off your POP server, even your ISP server. Then, it adds it to its own internal blacklist, which you can maintain, and even lets you filter the mail against the MAPS RBL spammers blacklist. Oh, its free btw.

    Of course, by bouncing the email, your address appears as invalid to the spammer and, let's face it, so it also helps eliminate the sale of your address to other email spam lists.

    Anyway, I use it and it has helped me. If anyone is interested, the site is owned by a fellow named Nick Bolton and the site is http://www.mailwasher.net

    -Robert

    [ 02-08-2002: Message edited by: Robert ]

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    I too have seen it. Usually, I get mildly upset with spam, but I got the kicker the other day. When the mail was previewed, a box opened up...an big box that was larger than the screen (on purpose). There was no way to 'x' out of it...it was porn and it was big and this was in the radio station office. I did the CNTRL-ALT-DEL to close it. A few hours later, one of the sales people came to me in the studio freaking out about this big sick picture that she couldn't close. Turns out just about the entire staff got them. That one took the cake for tickin' me off.

    Tom Pyles

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    I don't know what the porn spammers think. It's not like I'm going to get a sick slice of their spam and all of a sudden say...
    "You know, I really haven't given porn a fair chance. I think I'll click on this ad after all."

    It bad enough at w*rk, but we also get it at home where our children can open up an email. Trying to block them has become an exercise in frustration because they must sign up for hundreds of yahoo and hotmail accounts.
    One spam will be from bobby123@yahoo.com and the next will be from bobby124@yahoo.com and so on. I can't just block yahoo.com addresses because some of my customers use them.

    It's frustrating and there is nothing that burns me more than unwanted porn ads coming into my home. :mad:

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    It's a war that seems that it can't be won. I also keep getting one from some company promoting stock (I thought it was illegal for this). The subject always says something like 'WSCH: then a ticker' I get tons of these. What's funny is I view the source to determine where the images are coming from...they are all from the Mercedes-Bens official website...They must be using a template and the spammer is pulling images from it...

    Tom Pyles

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    Hey, that mailwasher looks good, going to download and give it a try...anything is worth a try!

    I'm sick of this disgusting junk filling my inbox, when I'm always careful about my addy and I'm tired of losing a couple of days every few months dealing with them!
    Sure after I've gone on a rampage things go quiet, but a month later their back.
    I wish there was a way to sue the mongrels!

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    Here's a suggestion: The chief web guru at the college where I used to teach advised staff who were on the net a lot not to use their real name or email in the "identity" of their web browsers. I use a throwaway Hotmail address and a fake name in my browser. If I visit (or stumble into) a site that harvests visitor emails all they'll get is my junkmail address. I check into that account once in a while, mainly to shake my head at all the crud that ends up there.

    Another thing: don't use a plain mail-to link to put your email address on any of your pages, because it's too easy for email harvesters to grab it. Use a contact form or hide your email in a javascript. Here's a nice little "non-spammable" email link that I have found useful.
    http://www.psacake.com/web/cj.asp

    Hope this helps someone!

    Elisabeth Archambault

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    I still say we need to go after yahoo and msn.

    If somebody owning another business ie telephone a company allowed people to sign up multiple free non traceable phone accounts we would sue the pants off of them.

    No more free email! Think about if for a minute. Get rid of free email and the spam is gone completely.

    Webmasters can have email and isp can get it for their registered users who pay for their internet connection.

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    I've been getting pounded also. A ton of them are coming with pop ups lately. Some are thanking me for signing up for things which I never did. I have a feeling a fellow affiliate is using our emails and signing us up. No proof and I would never point fingers either. Just my 2<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon26.gif> It also makes me wonder if we are being automaticaly signed up for merchants at CJ or is it possible for someone to be signing us up?

    Please don't anyone start flaming me. :eek: I'm just stating what could be happening.

    Elisabeth, Thanks for the link. I'm gonna go check it out. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon7.gif>

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    Gameboy, I'm getting those sorts of emails too saying I've signed for stuff and I haven't!

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    A whole bunch of the problem came from people like Tshirtnews. They almost got PostMasterGeneral shut down.

    (These freaks had a list of 4.9 million and built it in less than 1 year. They are now on the lamb for some strange reason... hmmm, maybe screwing all their affiliates?)

    Anyway, I just got this email from PMG. Amazing how it never fails that these types of emails always get sent out last thing on Friday night isn't it?

    Here it is:

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>To Our Valued Customers:

    Mindshare Design wants to advise you of significant changes we have been making behind the scenes that are focused on satisfying your email business needs and improving our PMG Service.

    As you are probably aware, the email industry is currently experiencing phenomenal growth. To meet this challenge and keep pace with our customer growth, we have greatly increased our message processing capacity and efficiency over the last two months. Our expanded capabilities will ensure that we meet and often exceed our performance targets in delivering your messages.

    Additionally, to improve the availability and reliability of our service, we have transitioned our servers from a “managed” environment to a “co-location” environment. This change gives us primary control over our servers, versus secondary control under the “managed” environment. With this greater control, we can set higher expectations for system uptime and respond faster to any server-based issues such as message delivery performance.

    As a part of this transition, we are introducing new domains that will be replacing pm0.net in your messages. Our move to co-location has involved the rollout of new servers, IP addresses, and a new set of domains, based on a managed set of risk levels. Our servers are now organized in a tiered configuration The initial rollout of the migration to these tiers is underway and should be completed by the end of February. The new domains are identified as follows:

    Bronze = mb00.net
    Silver = ms00.net
    Gold = mg00.net


    You can see the use of the Bronze domain name in the header of this message.

    New customers will always start in the "bronze" mb00.net. After establishing a good track record with us, a bronze customer may be eligible to move up to "silver" ms00.net. Only customers that use closed-loop confirmations or double-opt-in will be eligible for "gold" mg00.net.

    Bronze: This is the default tier for all accounts.

    Silver: Movement into this tier will be based on specifics such as “good standing” in terms of complaints, source of recipients, documentation where required, and account status.

    Gold: This tier will meet all the requirements of Silver, and additionally must have confirmed, or double-opt-in method for gathering subscriptions.

    We will continue to give you updates on this program as it evolves, including the migration of accounts across these new tiers and specific rules set for each tier. The details of this program has been communicated to all major ISPs and major email providers to ensure that they are fully aware of and understand the benefits of our new program. We have gotten a very positive response from these providers across the board.


    Please be sure to forward this message to anyone on your staff who should be aware of the changes in our message addresses.

    Thank you very much!

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Thank goodness they are stepping in the right direction. As it is they say email volume will increase 5 fold over the next year alone! The spammers must be stopped before they destroy the validity of all email marketing!!!

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    Me too, ton's of spam lately , but you really kind of have to expect ( but not accept it) in this economy.

    People are desperate, and resorting to spam is nothing more than a form of crime, and it's on the increase , just as are most other "non-internet" scams, crimes, muggings, etc.

    Proof that the economy is F'ked, is in our inbox every day , but it's a lot easier to "delete" an email , than to defend yourself or family from a "face-to face" with a mugger on the street , or someone breaking in to your home .

    I'll bet that as soon as the economy improves, and money starts moving better, we will all start to see a decrease in the spam .

    I think it is almost unavoidable right now.

    Lisa

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    I would assume that spam is profitable, or it would have died off a long time ago. Unless everyone thinks it's profitable. In every discussion I've seen about spam, most say they just delete it. I have never, ever purchased anything from spam (even when I was truly a newbie). I don't know anyone who as. Even my father-in-law is so net illiterate and on aol doesn't responde to spam. If I need a service, I search it out...If I can't find it, I'll come to ABW [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] I know a guy that actually purchased an 'opt-in' list (yeah right). Most of the e-mail was either bounced, or it subscribed him to some other spammers list. Many of the addresses on his list were like bizz4u and bizzlist, getrich, etc...not one on there like johnsmith...I think they were all fake or from spammers...

    Tom Pyles

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    Although I know it's the bane of bulk mailers, I use an address from SpamCop.net as my published address on web pages, and for pretty much anything else. SpamCop also has great reporting tools.

    SpamCop cuts out virtually all spam, and maybe just a handful of other non-spam emails, but frankly I got so fed up with scrapers collecting my email address I thought it worth the subscription.

    I also tend to use a different email address for every service, which is a great way of tracking down where spam originates from, and/or just setting up a rule to delete it.

    The golden rule is never, ever publish your private unfiltered email address anywhere on the web.

    Also, I've been getting spam to an address which was clearly picked up off a web page by a scraper from reputable companies such as FreeServe, Virgin and Sainsbury's. I complained, and they said I had opted in, which was complete bollocks, it just seems that somewhere someone is importing addresses from scrapers into opt-in lists and basically infecting the whole list.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Proof that the economy is F'ked, is in our inbox every day <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I have to disagree with that one Lisa. Although I can see how easily you could come to that conclusion. The fact is that it is possible to make tons of money if you know how to spam 'right'

    Most spammers are really just hopelessly lazy.

    Proof that our economy is back on track appears evident in payouts slowly going up again. I see the possibility for payouts returning to levels we have not seen since mid 2000. Let's just all keep our fingers crossed!

    Spamcop are a bunch of self rightous idiots IMO.

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    I love this:

    The phoney disclaimer at the bottom of some spam I receive ...

    "You have received this email because you have opted in to our newsletter" ... or something of that nature.

    Problem is ... It was sent to the "comments@" one of my sites [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

    Must be an email harvesting bot. When you click their opt out link... It's a dead link :mad:

    The war that can't be won...

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dhelle:

    Must be an email harvesting bot. When you click their opt out link... It's a dead link :mad:
    Dave
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You shouldn't do that. As soon as your address is shown as valid and that the spam is read (by you reading it to find the opt out link) the value of your address goes up a lot, which means it gets added to more spam lists. I would bet that most remove me links are more like address verification links. They say "you're removed" on the thank you page, but on the webmasters report I would bet it says "address verified" or something similiar.

    I personally just ignore it. I know some people report every bit of spam they get (I'm just not that motivated [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]).

    Brian

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    the best thing you can do is mass-delete it
    and make sure your virus protection is up to date

    [ 02-10-2002: Message edited by: potato ]

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    LOL ... funny name, Welcome! <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/amilies/welcome.gif>

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    Try this trick. People are not as lazy as you might think:

    On your website, as I do mine, do not use hyperlinks for your email address which the bots harvest easily, even from cgi.

    Instead write them on your site in prose:
    EMAIL: admin at catiiimusicpublishing dot com

    Since I have been doing this, I haven't gotten ONE SINGLE spam to my domain accounts.
    (Only to hotmail which we all know sells your email whether they say they do or not, otherwise how does the spam start if you haven't given it out???)

    Just my 2cents [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img])))

    All the best!!

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    "otherwise how does the spam start if you haven't given it out???"

    Merchants, claiming I've joined their programs when I haven't!
    Usually it starts "You have received this because you are a member..." when I know
    I haven't signed!

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    Spamcop are a bunch of self rightous idiots IMO.

    Hmmmm... Someone is gonna pay for this! <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon8.gif> <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon8.gif> <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon8.gif>

    Now, just over 24 hours since posting that remark on this board all my domains mail is going into a black hole.

    this is gonna get good, trust me!

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