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June 5th, 2006, 03:30 PM #1Merchants Beginning to Respond
I am beginning to get emails from merchants trying to address affiliate concerns. Many are quoting CJs stuff about Linkshare "working towards the same initiative." Who is wrong about that information? The merchants or us?leeann
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June 5th, 2006, 03:32 PM #2
I'm starting to get some responses from merchants, too. Many get it. Some don't. (I don't hold that against the merchants--some just aren't technically oriented and don't frequent the boards.) Here's one of my recent replies, with some information that I'd rather not share publicly removed:
I wouldn’t recommend drinking CJ’s kool-aid. They have no idea what they’re talking about with this. I know you have some technical people on your staff. Run this by them and see what they have to say about it.
The FAQ brings up far more questions than it answers. It’s inaccurate in many areas, and vague in others. CJ is not answering questions. I’ve called and emailed about half a dozen people there (all the way up to --removed--) and have not received any answers to my numerous concerns. I’ve talked to dozens of other people (including other CJ Performers, merchants, high profile OPMs, and industry leaders) and nobody is getting concerned addressed.
LinkShare is not working on the same initiative. CJ keeps saying that, but LinkShare has publicly and privately denied it. Also, I’m on LinkShare’s Affiliate Advisory Board, so I know what changes are coming. This is not something LinkShare is working on. Nobody in the affiliate marketing industry is moving this direction.
These changes will do absolutely nothing to help improve Google rankings. If anything, they will hurt because the text will no longer be indexed. Google will essentially just see a blank space everywhere a CJ link belongs.
If CJ continues with this initiative, I will be transitioning all of my CJ links to other networks and will drop all programs that aren’t available on other networks or in-house. I’ve already stopped all new projects with CJ merchants and stopped adding new CJ merchants to my site, until it’s clearer whether or not they’re going to continue this initiative.
You might want to read the discussion at ABW and on Scott Jangro’s blog, including the petition. You’ll see how large the issues are and how widely affiliates are rejecting this initiative.
June 5th, 2006, 03:33 PM #3Originally Posted by leeann
June 5th, 2006, 03:34 PM #4
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June 5th, 2006, 03:43 PM #5
I'm also getting private communication from merchants and affiliate managers with details of what they know and what they suspect is going on. Seems we are not the only ones with conspiracy theories, merchants think there is something else going on here than meets the eye, especially when CJ is mandating a complete change of links, not allowing previous, time tested, commission earning, links to remain in place. They are, and rightly so, concerned about their future affiliate sales.Ron Bechdolt | Affiliate Program Management Consultant
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June 6th, 2006, 08:26 PM #6
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June 6th, 2006, 09:21 PM #7Originally Posted by mooseparts
Think about the potential audience. CJ claims to have tens of thousands of affiliates. Let's assume 80,000 just to have a number. Probably only about 5-10% generate enough to even earn a check. That's perhaps 5,000 affiliates. Out of that, probably only 1,000 generate enough that they would be concerned. To have 200 signers in just a few days with virtually no publicity is quite a statement.
June 6th, 2006, 09:43 PM #8
I would think the number of reasonably successfull CJ affiliates would have to be a lot more than 1000. That would equal less than 1 affiliate per CJ merchant?
Maybe that many aren't getting rich off CJ, but make enough to pay the monthly mortgage or rent.
It would be interesting if an aff manager would post about the common % of 'active' affiliates.
June 7th, 2006, 02:05 AM #9
I signed the petiton, didn't even hesitate, may not always be the most vocal but damn CJ is sure making a big mess of things right now..
If I have to pull all CJ links so be it, money is not worth losing control of my sites over..
June 7th, 2006, 08:19 AM #10Originally Posted by Justdoit
I deifnitely gave them a piece of my mind - professionally that is..
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