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    How many domains = too many?
    looking for some opinions on how many domains is too many on a shared hosting account (all on the same IP) does this even matter anymore?

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    Should not matter how many on same IP.

    Interlinking issues may be a different story though
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    yeah i would only do minimal interlinking on sites within the same host/ip

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    Best results is to have a unique ip for each, but I have no heard of any limit or real penalities for even hundreds on the same IP. Though if they all point to the same site that might not be a great thing.

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    people used to be worried about having their ip banned - but since the majority (?) of sites seemed to be hosted on a shared ip - google and friends are much more sophisticated about banning these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdig
    looking for some opinions on how many domains is too many on a shared hosting account (all on the same IP) does this even matter anymore?
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    Continued Success,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
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    ha ha

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    I'm *Not* joking

    IPs as band width is a dime a dozen, it's not 1996 ... do it right.

    In my Google results ABW is #1 out of 99,000,000 - 103MM sites for affiliate marketing
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    i know you're not joking...

    but to me shared hosting such as this is ok in some instances, of course i am no hosting expert

    you're right though, i should probably just "do it right"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdig
    i should probably just "do it right"
    It is a business, treat it as such
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    It is a business, treat it as such
    Are you saying that affiliate sites should be on a dedicated hosting platform?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    I'm *Not* joking

    IPs as band width is a dime a dozen, it's not 1996 ... do it right.

    In my Google results ABW is #1 out of 99,000,000 - 103MM sites for affiliate marketing
    Oh SURE, brag there Haiko!

    IPs can be bought on reseller accounts or dedicated servers in blocks that is not all that expensive per month charge.

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    Rhia7,

    I definately ain't saying go put up ten aff sites all on the same IP of a shared account, I don't see that prudent nor beneficial. Multiple IPs, multiple shared accounts or dedicated, works much better.

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    Yeah I had to run a bit naked on that one
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    About a month ago my hosting company calls me and informs me that I could save $24 a year if I let them move all my domains into one shared hosting account. I told the guy don't ever try to save me money. Then I explained it all to him, I would never put more than 1 on a ip addy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyfalcon
    About a month ago my hosting company calls me and informs me that I could save $24 a year if I let them move all my domains into one shared hosting account. I told the guy don't ever try to save me money. Then I explained it all to him, I would never put more than 1 on a ip addy.
    how do you have them set-up right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdig
    looking for some opinions on how many domains is too many on a shared hosting account (all on the same IP) does this even matter anymore?
    What is your purpose for having multiple domains in the first place? It's so darned hard to promote just one site.

    Regardless of IP issues, if you run multiple websites, I suggest you avoid linking between your sites. I know it's tempting when you have a PR7 site to give another a little boost -- but linking your sites together is like lashing boats together. It one sinks, they all sink. (Some Google penalties flow backward through inbound links.) If your purpose is diversification, then keep your egg baskets separate.

    If your goal in buying multiple domains is to capture traffic through the use of keyword-bearing domain names... well, it's my opinion that this technique is fairly weak because it still requires a tremendous degree of promotion for each site. Promotion resources would be better spent on your primary site to get it up "above the radar".

    To put it another way, which would you rather have in your fireplace: twenty slightly-warm logs or one burning log?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aahh
    What is your purpose for having multiple domains in the first place? It's so darned hard to promote just one site.
    the short answer: niche sites

    i think it is easier to promote niche sites actually

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    Id rather have 20 slow burning logs rather than one flaming one ...as long as the heats the same.

    Google, (or whatever) might just decide to blow out my pride & joy right before critical buying season.

    Of course the other side of the coin is its harder creating a truly popular site, when dividing your time between twenty.

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    New Domain vs. Subdomain for niche areas
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    the short answer: niche sites
    Well, it does seem that Google has gone back to their older model of giving extra value to domains containing keywords.

    One thing you might consider (if your niches are closely related) is to use subdomains instead of completely different domains. You get exactly the same SEO effect as a completely unique domain but inter-linking does not look suspicious.

    While most people are busily trying to capture traffic for the keyword "www", you can use subdomains to pick up traffic on product. For example, if you had, say "perfume.com" you might create a subdomain for each major brand:

    desire.perfume.com
    white-diamonds.perfume.com

    I've seen some companies use this technique to great effect. Since one of those companies is GOOGLE, I doubt the situation will change anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    Rhia7,

    I definately ain't saying go put up ten aff sites all on the same IP of a shared account, I don't see that prudent nor beneficial. Multiple IPs, multiple shared accounts or dedicated, works much better.
    I guess placing all your sites on the same host is "putting yourself naked"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aahh
    Regardless of IP issues, if you run multiple websites, I suggest you avoid linking between your sites.
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    I thought inbound links were a good idea, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aahh
    One thing you might consider (if your niches are closely related) is to use subdomains instead of completely different domains. You get exactly the same SEO effect as a completely unique domain but inter-linking does not look suspicious.
    true, sometimes subdomains make sense. i guess i am talking about "super niche" sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhia7
    I thought inbound links were a good idea, no?
    Rhia, I think what he was saying that if ONE of your sites in your web of internlinked sites gets sandboxed or banned then the others would be affected adversely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhia7
    I thought inbound links were a good idea, no?
    Inbound links are the most important thing... but...

    The search engines can easily tell if links are coming from sites sharing an IP address or even withing the same "C-Block" (for example, 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254). Although nobody knows how this plays out exactly, it is pretty certain that your positioning in the Google is based on quantity and quality of incoming links -- and part of "quality" is diversity of "C-Block" sources.

    So, hosting all your sites with one hosting company means that interlinking is not as useful as you might hope - whether or not each site has its own IP.

    All inbound links are good for traffic -- but the best links for SEO are:
    1) without dynamic parameters (the part like ?whatever=blah)
    2) should have your keywords in the link-text
    3) should be one-way (not reciprocated)
    4) linking site should be related in theme
    5) diverse in source - from many C-Blocks

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