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    The idiot just didn't know when to stop.

    HER WEBSITE NOW SAYS:

    "I asked Doug Fitch and his purported rep,Tom Pyles to remove the Doug Fitch Songwriter4u Amazon Donation Page, and it has been removed.I don't know if it was removed by Amazon or someone else.
    Emails from Mr.Fitch and Mr.Pyles stated they would not be removing it.
    I wasn't concerned with the use of the domain name.I WAS CONCERNED that my site would be associated with things I strongly dis-approve of
    Coincidentally(?) my dream/guestbook was sabatoged with images of bestiality,placed by a person(?) who signed in as 'michelle', just after asking these people about that page. Someone claiming to be 'tom pyles' with an e address at thmedia.net reamed me on an email stating he was the songwriter's(doug fitch) representative. At this site:tompyles.com,(NOT GOMERpyle.com)*just ask if you'd like to see the emails. I noted THMedia.net was engaged in activity with QWEST ,and planning to relocate to the qwest cybercenter in Ohio.The BBB has an extremely negative report on QWEST.There have been actions taken by the Attorney Generals office in many states.

    BBB

    If you'd like to report fraud,pornography, or hacking click here.God Bless America ,land that I love,stand beside her....and guide her...
    when you lose your anonymity you lose a lot ~choose a stage name,and remember the world is crawling with legions of Mark Chapmans,stalkers and weirdos~Stay Kewl~Gaye"
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    MY WRITTEN RESPONSE:

    Dear Ms Vaska,

    You had your chance. The page you referred to which was NOT violating ANY law or legal issue of any sort, was indeed removed, yet you still place a slanderous remark about me on your home page.

    You don't know when to quit.

    You will soon be receiving notice of legal action for slander, both for the remarks you had the other day linking to my site associating me with horrible things, as well as your remarks on your page now, which still associate me with lies and unethical practices. Lies are slander. And all of what you have said being legally worthless, and untrue, is lies.

    Now there is no turning back. I'm sorry you just didn't know when to quit.

    Removing my name from your site and your remarks may mitigate our action, but in any case, action will be taken, the severity of which depends on your actions right this moment.

    I have had quite enough of your conceited poppycock. I am so sorry you chose to try choose such a ridiculously losing battle, and then failed in YOUR responsibility to be responsible and ethical.

    Doug Fitch

    My charity extends only so far. It is now time to uncork the next phase. NO MERCY.

    :mad: :mad: :mad:

    My homepage now links to the facts on songwriter4u.NET!!!!!!!!!!

    [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: 807 ]
    Doug Fitch Home Page

    [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: 807 ]

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    @ABW members...if you all get tired of this, just say so [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] secondly...how about a site review (yes I know it's not the correct forum)...songwriter4u.net

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>@ABW members...if you all get tired of this, just say so <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    TOM Tired of this? Are you crazy. I look forward to this. I think I broke my refresh. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Definitely keep the play-by-play coming!!

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    This is as funny as all get out to those not involved personally.

    Certainly, keep us informed.

    One thing I truly like about ABestWeb is that it is not all stuffy and we are allowed to go down these paths of merriment and confusion. It keeps things lively around here. All work and no play makes a dull board. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]




    This is the song that never ends,
    It goes on and on, my friends.
    I started singing it,
    Not knowing what it was.
    I'll continue singing it,
    Forever just because,
    This is the song that never ends,
    It goes on and on, my friends....




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    Glad you guys like it...She just couldn't leave well enough alone, so what the hey..I would Really like to have some comments for our comments page...

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    Tom, I went to post a comment but it wasn't working. Let me know when it's up and running. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon12.gif>

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    I'm building the form right now...it's up, I just need to test it...give me about 5 minutes...BTW, I'm thinking about having another contest.....


    [Form has now been tested and is working...post away]

    [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: TH Media ]

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    Thanks Patrick [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    Anytime Tom <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon7.gif>

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    New additional sponser at CATIIIMusicPublishing. Link is on the home page at the bottom. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    AN ALBUM COVER.COM

    Thanks Domino!

    Doug (aka MADDOG... :mad: )...LOL

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    Tom, you have another comment waiting to be shown. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon15.gif>

    Feel free to edit it as you see fit :eek:

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    Thanks fish...it's already up...About my lastest contest...more free banner impressions for some artwork. As you can see there is a 'Get The Gear' link...I'm setting up a store at cafe press. While I don't expect any sales, the effect is great when people see that we have T-Shirts, Mugs and Boxer shorts. I can't use any of her graphics (I have a decent photo of her) since I don't want to stoop to the copyright level. I had a nice image of Doug Fitch, with her quote about his music underneath. Both Doug and I agree that it shouldn't be in the store (he is an established musician) but it was funny. I'll give banner impressions to the first 5 images we use in the store...if more come in, I will increase the number....Any takers [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    I just submitted a comment. Tom, you might want to reconsider the bit about "the ramblings of a manic depressive" at the top of the pages, unless you somehow have a valid clinical diagnosis to base that on. Considering that one of the issues here is libel, you might be setting yourself up for problems with that. Sorry I don't have a catchy alternative to suggest, but I thought I'd mention it.

    One other thing -- false and demeaning statements are slander when they're spoken, libel when they're printed. Double-check with your legal eagles to make sure you use the correct terms if this saga continues much longer!

    Elisabeth Archambault

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    Elisabeth,
    Thanks for the post...I should have it up soon. The legals will certainly be sure that the proper terms are used (I think that was Dougs post). I thought about that quote in our logo (I'm open for suggestions). I think we are safe as long as I don't claim that she is actually suffering from an illness. The logo or site doesn't claim that she truly is...and besides, with the time I've spent on it, I could be the one with the mental illness :eek: In all seriousness, I would welcome the feedback of those a little more versed in the law than I am (my lawyers know about it..they aren't happy, but haven't said there is anything on there to give her ammo.) I'm welcome to all suggestions...

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    Elisabeth,
    You called that one....shortly after I posted, I got the call..I've changed it to 'Now You Know The Whole Story' for now...LOL I am still open for suggestions


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    nobody asked me...

    But I believe the kindest thing to do would be to take down this latest web site and allow your lawyers to handle the situation.

    It's blazingly obvious to anyone that reads her words that you are not the one at fault... she can't hurt you... what could possibly be the purpose of this site?

    You don't have to defend yourself this way... you don't have to hurt or shame her... she handles that end of things much better than you ever could and if there is mental illness involved, it's just cruel.

    Let the lawyers take care of the libel issues, block her from sending mail to you and yours, that's all that needs to happen.

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    Cedric,
    Actually, we did ask you [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] Here is my issue. Orginally, when the e-mails started being exchanged, it was obvious we weren't getting anywhere. She also posted several downright lies on her site. I told her that she could post whatever she wanted, but if it weren't true, she would be held legally for it. Not only did she continue to post more lies, she sent this out in an e-mail (we have heard from people she knows, calling us child molestors, hackers, etc and the like). She did tell us that she would do something like this. Then, yesterday, I get two phone calls. One was from Qwest asking about the hacking site we run (there is none). The member went on to tell me about a phone conversation that took place, accusing us of hacking and again, molesting children and women. The second phone call came from the the radio station I work at, inquiring about the irate woman of whom I hacked her site, and again, molesting children. At that point, it was time to put up the site. Everything on that site is true, word for word. Every e-mail exchange is included, and people can judge for themselves. As you can see from my previous posts, I was willing to let it go (under the advice of other ABW members). Unfortunately, she wasn't. Doug removed his page, and yet, she just posted more lies. Unfortunately, the site stays for now.

    Tom Pyles

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    My advice to leave her alone and hope she gets bored didn't work, did it, sorry.

    It's sounding a bit like the Bernard Shifman story. Do you think your servers could handle the Slashdot effect? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    As for Ms Foam-at-the-mouth, you could always contact her ISP and ask them to suspend it.

    Also, if you'd like to comment on her web design, there are plenty of sites listed under ODP's Worst of the Web cat.

    [ 02-08-2002: Message edited by: Dynamoo ]

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    Dynamo,
    It wasn't bad advice...it was brought up by other members that we should leave it alone...others stated that leaving her alone would cause her to basically seek out something else, and that she has done. I really don't know what else can be done. I've been hesitant to post the letters about child pornography, molestation, etc. They will be posted, but some other issues need to be worked out first.

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    Dynamoo, thanks very much again for the site advice. It is much more coherent and standard in appearance now on every page, with colors, font, setup, etc.

    And as for contacting her ISP, I contacted her Website Host, Yayhoos, AND GAVE THE URL AND COMPLETE DETAILS of what was going on and that it was libelous and legal action was being considered if they didn't take her down (it IS a FREE site). Do you know what the minimum wage idiot wrote me back??

    "Please provide us with complete details and the URL if you have one so we can better assist you in this matter."

    Hmmmm...bad echo in my email server.
    It seems some people can not read.
    Sheesh....

    Once again to reiterate until I am blue in the face, I took the page down and removed songwriter4u nikname from it on my own without telling her to see if it would shut her up....she then places on her website that my site is down and continues to commit libel! It just goes to show you, that you can NEVER capitulate to your enemy. It just doesn't work. Not with Yomama Binladin or anyone else.

    But, at least I did TRY to take the high road by just removing it. And I take a shot in the back for it.

    As far as shaming her?? What on earth do you think she did, and is doing to Tom and myself!! I have my own personal problems, that Tom knows about, so why am I then not "shamed?" Is it ok for a guy to get slammed personally and not ok for her? Her "problem" is no excuse. If I had the guts to get help, so can she.
    Nope..to put it nicely, that argument just doesn't hold water.

    She "shamed" herself. Only the FACTS are posted on Tom's (and mine) website. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    All the best,
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Is it ok for a guy to get slammed personally and not ok for her?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>IMO, it's not okay for anyone in this situation. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Nope..to put it nicely, that argument just doesn't hold water.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It wasn't meant to be an argument -- just an opinion. I don't see this site as a benefit to your position, your reputation, or your spirit. Just an opinion. You see it differently. We disagree.

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    She hasn't got a leg to stand on so now is probably a good time to ignore her. If it was me dealing with this situation I would be getting the feeling that it's a big waste of time. We've seen her site and we kind of get the idea of what kind of person she is so I think we all know that her success may be limited.

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    Pacifism doesn't solve anything. It only encourages the enemy!

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It just goes to show you, that you can NEVER capitulate to your enemy-Doug<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    807, I agree--Retaliate! She declared war on you!!! Plus, she's continuing to try to do damage!

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    Note to self : Try not to piss Leader off.

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