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    ABW Founder Haiko de Poel, Jr.'s Avatar
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    All,

    Why should I leave html posting capability on if it only is used to spam?

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    Haiko, such a loaded question does not really befit the name "poll." :rolleyes:

    That said, if you're troubled about people using HTML badly, exercise your executive privilege, turn it off and don't apologize. I don't know if that would stop spamming, although it might reduce it. We could still tell each other about links, etc. - people would have to cut and paste the URL instead of just clicking a link.

    Is there any way you could block HTML posting generally but let people have it who had earned your trust? Just a thought.

    Elisabeth Archambault

    Edited to add comment

    [ 03-10-2002: Message edited by: buckworks.com ]

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    Elisabeth is right, it wont stop it but it will slow it down. The only solution I see is that your going to have to moderate more than usual and use the "delete post" button (or whatever it is you use) a hell of a lot.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Haiko:
    All,

    Why should I leave html posting capability on if it only is used to spam?

    Haiko
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    Because you can't let a few bad apples ruin it for the rest of us [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
    Just have to weed out the bad ones... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Thanks for asking our opinions...

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    Tough one Haiko. On one hand, it really helps us use examples in our discussion. On the other hand, it opens the gates for spam city. I would vote to leave it and let the moderators delete the spam.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Is there any way you could block HTML posting generally but let people have it who had earned your trust? Just a thought.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That is seriously a good idea. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif>

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    Actually, I don't like the HTML enabled. True that I have bad days with UBB code, but the HTML enabling has made it harder for me to post code, even in the {code} tags.

    That said, I certainly do know my HTML better than UBB and now that I'm getting used to using HTML insted of the UBB code it can be convenient.

    Is that ambiguous enough for you?

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    I think the administration of HTML enabled forums can become a nightmare, especially with the growth that ABW has seen lately. I think we can all get our points across with UBB code (although that can be a little buggy at times)...I think using the UBB code is just fine.


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    I'm sure the spammers get a snoot full from ABW members for the unwanted links. Seems embarrassment keeps this to a minimum since we are all registered here.

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    I do not think that you should penalise the majority to prevent the few. Weed out the offenders.

    Saying that, Im not the one who has to do the work.

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    Since I've come to ABW, I have learned UBB to some extent and it seems to fulfill my needs here. In general I hate to have available tools curtailed but if administration of HTML posting capacity truly is a nightmare then ditch it. (Also assuming it is mostly used as spam which I can not personally verify.)

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    I don't undestand. Why do spammers need html in order to spam?

    I don't know if it's possible, but I like Elisabeth's idea. What if only full members and up were allowed to post html?

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    My thoughts would be to leave everything alone. There are many wise and experienced people in our group and when someone spams Ab members are quick to pick up on it and expose the spammers for what they are. It does provide a benefit to newbies to learn how to spot it and to avoid falling for this type of thing in the future.
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    Hmmm...

    Maybe if we can have a restriction such as:
    New user (less than 100 msg posting) - can't have HTML.
    Regular user (>100 msg) can have HTML.

    Since spammers will not post 100 msg just to spam... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    I like the idea of embarrassing them off the board. I think the members, by now, should be able to do a lot to clean up the riffraff.

    That is probably most effective. If you see someone out of line, speak up. Don't leave it all to Haiko.

    If you don't want to call them up short in public, at least send a PM and tell them you don't like it. Public censure is a great tool. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    If it's going to help you cut down the amount of unnecessary time weeding out the spam I'd say html is liveable without. Goodness knows you (and the moderators too) must spend ages already on keeping ABW great.

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    I remember abestweb members being able to fight off the spammers on their own. I guess that is the one drawback to having non webmasters here, we now need to protect them.

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    I like Xo's idea. It might be amenable to automation.

    Not that I know what UBB is.


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    Honestly, I don't think removing member's posting options will fix a spamming problem. In a board like this, there will ALWAYS be the people who spam (whether or not they can use html).

    When I looked in the User Agreement I didn't see anything about spamming. Maybe we need some rules about spamming and/or the posting of affiliate/referal links if we want to keep spammers from posting. I don't think that'll stop the problem, at least it would help make things clear that their spam is unwanted.

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    Unless I'm missing a lot of posts (and I don't think I am), this is one of the most, if not THE most, spam free boards I've ever seen.

    And I much prefer the way members handle spam (with a bit of humour) than the way some *other* boards do it with policing up the arse.

    My vote in this poll, is leave it as is.

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    Can you just shut it off in the freebie and coupon forums? Seems to me that those would be the 2 places on the whole site that would cause any problems. Like webmaster mike says embarrasment will curtail everywhere else

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