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    Yahoo/Overture Is Using Links Pages to Carry Our Sponsored Advertisement!
    We have recently bought some keywords from Yahoo/Overture. To our astonishment, many of the hits to our relevant pages are not coming from the search engine itself. They are coming from no-content, no-advertisement links pages like the following:

    paydayloans1.com/
    www-paydayloan .net/
    .faster-results.com/_1_Z12UIF033865P8__us.fastuk/search/web/Payday-Loan/

    Do you have any such experiences?
    Thanks!

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    yahoo search partners

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    Thank you, simcat, but I would have to pay WebMasterWorld $89.00 in order to read those two references.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huhu
    Thank you, simcat, but I would have to pay WebMasterWorld $89.00 in order to read those two references.

    huhu
    How come? I don't pay WMW anything and I can see them.

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    Simple answer is for any merchant to compelely ban any "direct to merchant" PPCSE campaigns by their affiliates. Any click to a affiliate enabled merchant should come from physical clicks from an affiliates own page or e-mail.... period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecomcity
    Simple answer is for any merchant to compelely ban any "direct to merchant" PPCSE campaigns by their affiliates. Any click to a affiliate enabled merchant should come from physical clicks from an affiliates own page or e-mail.... period.
    That wouldn't stop the problem this thread refers to.

    Over will show the ads on junk pages regardless of the destination. So if an aff advertises his/her own site on there, they would still get junk traffic. Same if the merchant itself advertises.

    As for the question at hand: Personally I've found that the CR stays good if I do NOT set an overly big daily budget. Suss out at what point the really junk traffic kicks in for your keywords (when they've used up the "good" traffic, your CR will die for the day), and set your daily-budget cutoff below that. Leave the crap traffic for the competition's unlimited (or nearly so) budget

    The amount bid per click doesn't seem to affect the phenomenon.

    BTW I always send the PPC traffic at my own pages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecomcity
    Simple answer is for any merchant to compelely ban any "direct to merchant" PPCSE campaigns by their affiliates. Any click to a affiliate enabled merchant should come from physical clicks from an affiliates own page or e-mail.... period.
    That's nonsense. Many (probably most) merchants are no good at PPC (including many who think they are) and affiliates can help them out. Good merchants are usually good at what they do, i.e. selling stuff. Some work is best left to specialists.
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    No sense arguing with him. He is just too lazy and cheap to promote his business, and he'll stay that way until the dying end.

    Those who put value into a click by arming the customer with a checkout coupon to ensure the best deal will get the commission, while Mike is sitting there scratching his head and wondering where all the savvy shoppers went.
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    I've had disputes with Overture about one of their providers, giantexplorer (dot) com. About 98% of those visitors come from the Middle East, Africa, Korea and other parts of Asia. I found that site on several other ppc as an ADVERTISER. I got refunded a large sum of money for it and I'm STILL fighting that unqualified traffic months later. I've asked Overture to remove my ads from being shown by that supplier and they said it was not possible to do this at this time.

    SiteAdvisor says - "Feedback from credible users suggests that downloads on this site may contain what some people would consider adware, spyware, or other unwanted programs."

    You have to monitor your traffic from Overture very carefully. They do give refunds but not unless you argue and fight for it.

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    ban any "direct to merchant" PPCSE campaigns by their affiliates. Any click to a affiliate enabled merchant should come from physical clicks from an affiliates own page or e-mail.... period.
    But it's OK for you to re-direct 404 traffic from your client merchant's site to your affiliate site, effectively purloining THEIR customer's eyeballs? The perfume is wearing off of the piglet now.

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